Park Brake fault help...!
Hello everyone.. having some problems..
I'll start with brakes here though and open a different thread about the engine problems shortly.
I just came inside after replacing front and rear rotors and pads on my 2003 STR. followed the JTIS as follows.
Carry out the parking brake cable tension release. (couldn't do this)
Remove both rear wheels and tires.
Detach the parking brake cable.
Reposition the parking brake caliper lever.
Detach the parking brake cable.
Remove the parking brake pads.
Remove the parking brake pad retaining pins.
Remove the parking brake pad anti-rattle spring plate.
Remove the parking brake pads.
Remove the parking brake caliper.
Remove and discard the parking brake caliper retaining bolts.
Make sure the brake disc faces are clean before installation.
Brake pads must always be replaced in axle sets.
Install new parking brake caliper retaining bolts.
Using a suitable tool, fully retract the parking brake caliper pistons. (used a vise grip to retract pistons)
To install, reverse the removal procedure.
At start up the car now has park break fault I'm not sure how to proceed...
beeps when turned off and key taken out
I'll start with brakes here though and open a different thread about the engine problems shortly.
I just came inside after replacing front and rear rotors and pads on my 2003 STR. followed the JTIS as follows.
Carry out the parking brake cable tension release. (couldn't do this)
Remove both rear wheels and tires.
Detach the parking brake cable.
Reposition the parking brake caliper lever.
Detach the parking brake cable.
Remove the parking brake pads.
Remove the parking brake pad retaining pins.
Remove the parking brake pad anti-rattle spring plate.
Remove the parking brake pads.
Remove the parking brake caliper.
Remove and discard the parking brake caliper retaining bolts.
Make sure the brake disc faces are clean before installation.
Brake pads must always be replaced in axle sets.
Install new parking brake caliper retaining bolts.
Using a suitable tool, fully retract the parking brake caliper pistons. (used a vise grip to retract pistons)
To install, reverse the removal procedure.
At start up the car now has park break fault I'm not sure how to proceed...
beeps when turned off and key taken out
Found it also now.. thanks I'll give it a try, I would think it would be in the brake install procedures in the JTIS but i didn't see anything.
Electronic Park Brake (EPB) –
Re-Calibration Procedure
2003 MY-ON
S-TYPE
M44998-ON
Issue:
On some 2003 MY-on S-TYPE vehicles, a customer may report a concern of premature
parking brake pad wear or the brakes binding. This condition can result if the electronic
park brake (EPB) system is not re-calibrated after the removal of the rear brake calipers
to replace the brake pads.
Action:
Should a customer express concern regarding the above, refer to the calibration
procedure detailed in this bulletin.
1. Reset the EPB module:
a. Switch off the ignition.
b. Disconnect the battery for 30 seconds. For additional information, refer to STYPE
Workshop Manual Section 414-01.
c. Reconnect the battery.
2. Start the engine.
3. Firmly apply and release the footbrake five times.
4. Confirm that the message ‘NOT CALIBRATED’ or ‘APPLY FOOT AND PARK
BRAKE’ is displayed on the instrument cluster message center. This indicates that
the parking brake is in calibration mode.
5. Lightly press the footbrake pedal.
6. Apply the parking brake by using the EPB switch.
7. Release the parking brake.
8. Release the footbrake.
9. Confirm that the brake warning lamp is no longer illuminated on the instrument
pack and that the ‘NOT CALIBRATED’ message is no longer displayed in the
message center.
10. Apply and release the EPB five times to ensure no error is present.
Electronic Park Brake (EPB) –
Re-Calibration Procedure
2003 MY-ON
S-TYPE
M44998-ON
Issue:
On some 2003 MY-on S-TYPE vehicles, a customer may report a concern of premature
parking brake pad wear or the brakes binding. This condition can result if the electronic
park brake (EPB) system is not re-calibrated after the removal of the rear brake calipers
to replace the brake pads.
Action:
Should a customer express concern regarding the above, refer to the calibration
procedure detailed in this bulletin.
1. Reset the EPB module:
a. Switch off the ignition.
b. Disconnect the battery for 30 seconds. For additional information, refer to STYPE
Workshop Manual Section 414-01.
c. Reconnect the battery.
2. Start the engine.
3. Firmly apply and release the footbrake five times.
4. Confirm that the message ‘NOT CALIBRATED’ or ‘APPLY FOOT AND PARK
BRAKE’ is displayed on the instrument cluster message center. This indicates that
the parking brake is in calibration mode.
5. Lightly press the footbrake pedal.
6. Apply the parking brake by using the EPB switch.
7. Release the parking brake.
8. Release the footbrake.
9. Confirm that the brake warning lamp is no longer illuminated on the instrument
pack and that the ‘NOT CALIBRATED’ message is no longer displayed in the
message center.
10. Apply and release the EPB five times to ensure no error is present.
The proceeds for recallibrating the EPB is easy enough to understand except for the first statement which states. "1.reset the EPB." How do you do this, do you need a code clearance machine or is there a process for doing this.
I have had the park brake fault up for some time but the park brake is working fine. I have replaced the rear pad and tried to use the procedure list above but without success. I do not know what to do to reset the EPB
Any help would be appreciated
Tony
I have had the park brake fault up for some time but the park brake is working fine. I have replaced the rear pad and tried to use the procedure list above but without success. I do not know what to do to reset the EPB
Any help would be appreciated
Tony
The proceeds for recalibrating the EPB is easy enough to understand except for the first statement which states. "1.reset the EPB." How do you do this, do you need a code clearance machine or is there a process for doing this.
I have had the park brake fault up for some time but the park brake is working fine. I have replaced the rear pad and tried to use the procedure list above but without success. I do not know what to do to reset the EPB
Any help would be appreciated
Tony
I have had the park brake fault up for some time but the park brake is working fine. I have replaced the rear pad and tried to use the procedure list above but without success. I do not know what to do to reset the EPB
Any help would be appreciated
Tony
Last edited by Jagtony; Sep 6, 2013 at 02:16 AM. Reason: Spelling
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Thanks for that info JagV8.
I did not notice the colon, but I have tried the a,b,c bit but it did not seem to get me into the recalibration mode. I do not get the recalibration message displayed so I am not sure i am getting into the recalibration mode.
I have added my signature so hopefully it will show in this reply
I did not notice the colon, but I have tried the a,b,c bit but it did not seem to get me into the recalibration mode. I do not get the recalibration message displayed so I am not sure i am getting into the recalibration mode.
I have added my signature so hopefully it will show in this reply
Last edited by Jagtony; Sep 6, 2013 at 02:18 AM. Reason: Spelling again
Thanks for that info JagV8.
I did not notice the colon, but I have tried the a,b,c bit but it did not seem to get me into the recallibration mode. I do not get the recallibration message displayed so I am not sure i am getting into the recallibration mode.
I have added my signature so hopefully it will show in this reply
I did not notice the colon, but I have tried the a,b,c bit but it did not seem to get me into the recallibration mode. I do not get the recallibration message displayed so I am not sure i am getting into the recallibration mode.
I have added my signature so hopefully it will show in this reply
Time for you to dig deeper I think.
Mickey,
Thanks for the reply. The annoying thing is, I do not have a fault with the park brakes, it works fine. It is just the annoying message that keeps coming up and the orange light.
I will keep looking. It would be nice if I knew of any tests I could do on the electric part of the switch/señsor to see if that is giving the correct readings. Any body know of any resistance or continuity tests I could do.
Thanks for the reply. The annoying thing is, I do not have a fault with the park brakes, it works fine. It is just the annoying message that keeps coming up and the orange light.
I will keep looking. It would be nice if I knew of any tests I could do on the electric part of the switch/señsor to see if that is giving the correct readings. Any body know of any resistance or continuity tests I could do.
Somebody posted some - I think on the UK forum.
However, there's a fair chance you DO have a problem and that it's battery-related. The EPB is crazily sensitive, needing both lots of current AND volts at just the wrong time(s).
Try to narrow down when it happens / any times it doesn't. Is it different if you hold the paddle down all the time as you switch engine off and remove the key? If you do that, thus leaving the EPB off, do you get the fault when you next come to start the engine? Etc.
The whole EPB is a reasonable concept but poorly implemented with various bugs and gotchas - like: it can jam on and the bypass with a flat battery is a tow or take stuff apart!
However, there's a fair chance you DO have a problem and that it's battery-related. The EPB is crazily sensitive, needing both lots of current AND volts at just the wrong time(s).
Try to narrow down when it happens / any times it doesn't. Is it different if you hold the paddle down all the time as you switch engine off and remove the key? If you do that, thus leaving the EPB off, do you get the fault when you next come to start the engine? Etc.
The whole EPB is a reasonable concept but poorly implemented with various bugs and gotchas - like: it can jam on and the bypass with a flat battery is a tow or take stuff apart!
Last edited by JagV8; Sep 6, 2013 at 02:05 AM.
Strange cars these S Types, I have still to solve the park brake problem, but had trouble with the knock sensor. Replaced this and solved the problem but it now decides I have a down stream O2 sensor problem on bank 2.
I am investigating this at the moment. My main concern is I seem to be solving one problem only to be tested with another.
Maybe it's time to put the old girl down and get another car?
I am investigating this at the moment. My main concern is I seem to be solving one problem only to be tested with another.
Maybe it's time to put the old girl down and get another car?
Last edited by Jagtony; Sep 12, 2013 at 02:04 AM.
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