S Type LSD? Lincoln LS Install
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S Type LSD? Lincoln LS Install
People are still interested in a LSD for our STR's. Nobody has done it yet but I wanted to post a good thread about how the Lincoln LS guys figured it out.
I think we could get this to work but somebody will need to be a guinea pig. The STR's are getting so cheap maybe it will happen??
It looks like it requires a Lincoln LS Gen I (2000-2002) diff and axles which should be identical to the S Type Gen I parts. These parts are installed in the Lincoln LS Gen II (2003-2006) housing. It looks like it should fit the Gen II S Type housing too??
The Jaguar would need to stay with the stock gear ratio because of the car's electronics. The LS can run any rear ratio without problems.
Lincoln LS Limited Slip Differential bolt-in... - Lincoln vs Cadillac
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I think we could get this to work but somebody will need to be a guinea pig. The STR's are getting so cheap maybe it will happen??
It looks like it requires a Lincoln LS Gen I (2000-2002) diff and axles which should be identical to the S Type Gen I parts. These parts are installed in the Lincoln LS Gen II (2003-2006) housing. It looks like it should fit the Gen II S Type housing too??
The Jaguar would need to stay with the stock gear ratio because of the car's electronics. The LS can run any rear ratio without problems.
Lincoln LS Limited Slip Differential bolt-in... - Lincoln vs Cadillac
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Cambo (12-12-2012)
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Did we determine if the S-Type differential was 8" or 8.8"? Mafioso (Luigi) installed a Quaif in his STR. The differential had to be ground to accept the LSD. Something must have went awry with the install because his rearend eventually locked up. I believe the LS Lincoln boys are using an 8.8 Traction-Lok carrier in their 8" carriers. Hope the 8.8 Traction-Lok slips in our rears as it does the Lincoln LS. Shooting a PM to Avos...he'll know.
Last edited by bfsgross; 12-12-2012 at 10:07 AM.
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Very interesting development, although that thread is from 2008, and I believe some of that info has been posted on here before. An LSD for the STR is definitely top of the list for desperately needed mods.
Not sure if those internals will indeed fit inside a 03+ diff housing, or will it be necessary to convert to complete 00-02 diff assembly in order to facilitate the gen1 diff and axels swap into a gen2 car/case.
Not sure if those internals will indeed fit inside a 03+ diff housing, or will it be necessary to convert to complete 00-02 diff assembly in order to facilitate the gen1 diff and axels swap into a gen2 car/case.
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I am interested in finding out if one can fit an 8.8 Ford LSD in a 2004 STR. I plan to put a Ford True-Trac Auburn, or similar 28 spline LSD in my 2000 S-type. I purchased a Gen 1, 3:31 ratio differential to rebuild with an LSD, but this project is at least 6 months out. I have been tracking the prices of Ford 8.8 LSDs and in the past year average prices has gone up close to $100 USD.
As far as I can tell the installation in the Gen 1 should be very straight forward. Drop the differential, tear it apart, install new bearings, put your stock gears onto the LSD, fit it in, shim it up, put the rear cover back on, and slam it back in, fill her up with oil. Piece of cake!
As far as I can tell the installation in the Gen 1 should be very straight forward. Drop the differential, tear it apart, install new bearings, put your stock gears onto the LSD, fit it in, shim it up, put the rear cover back on, and slam it back in, fill her up with oil. Piece of cake!
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8.8" Traction-Lok
Ditto, the Quaife cost moolah. We're going to have to try an 8.8" Traction-Lok or Auburn.
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I spent some time this evening reading the write up on the Lincoln LS LSD swap. I Searched on all the 8.8 IRS differentials and studied all the images I could find.
It seems to me that Ford created the 8.0 differential specifically for the DEW 98 platform. It appears that they made a slightly smaller housing that fits only 8" ring gears. I think that they use the 8.8 bearing and carrier that uses the same ring gear bolt mounting pattern. This is why the LS LSD swap works with the 8.8 carrier and 8" ring gear.
I visually can't tell what the internal differences are between the Gen 1 differential and Gen II differential housings. Perhaps someone on the forum can post some images of the 2 housings side-by-side and let us know the differences. It would be nice to see if the housing cover bold pattern is the same between the 8.0 and 8.8 housing. Can anyone measure to see if they are the same? I'de wager that the internal carrier mounts are the same.
Thus from my perspective, putting LSD in a STR becomes a matter of cost.
I believe I could swap a 8.8 Cobra or 8.8 Explorer differential into an STR.
You would have to adapt the Jaguar differential cover to the 8.8 housing,(or make an adapter mount) and build a new front mount to match up with the front housing mount. Internally, you would have to use the 8.0 ring and pinion so it would match up with the driveshaft donut flange. Plus the LSD has to fit 28 spline axles.
Eventually for my STR I'll head in this direction, but I don't have a spare $1K right now to purchase the parts.
It seems to me that Ford created the 8.0 differential specifically for the DEW 98 platform. It appears that they made a slightly smaller housing that fits only 8" ring gears. I think that they use the 8.8 bearing and carrier that uses the same ring gear bolt mounting pattern. This is why the LS LSD swap works with the 8.8 carrier and 8" ring gear.
I visually can't tell what the internal differences are between the Gen 1 differential and Gen II differential housings. Perhaps someone on the forum can post some images of the 2 housings side-by-side and let us know the differences. It would be nice to see if the housing cover bold pattern is the same between the 8.0 and 8.8 housing. Can anyone measure to see if they are the same? I'de wager that the internal carrier mounts are the same.
Thus from my perspective, putting LSD in a STR becomes a matter of cost.
I believe I could swap a 8.8 Cobra or 8.8 Explorer differential into an STR.
You would have to adapt the Jaguar differential cover to the 8.8 housing,(or make an adapter mount) and build a new front mount to match up with the front housing mount. Internally, you would have to use the 8.0 ring and pinion so it would match up with the driveshaft donut flange. Plus the LSD has to fit 28 spline axles.
Eventually for my STR I'll head in this direction, but I don't have a spare $1K right now to purchase the parts.
Last edited by Tijoe; 12-13-2012 at 09:28 PM. Reason: typo
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2004 S-Type R
2000 S-type 4.0 (project car)
1997 Jaguar XJ6 Vanden Plas
1966 Jaguar XKE W/Boss 302, SCCA Race car (Brother's car - I did the conversion 30 years ago - stored in my work shop)
1962 Jaguar XKE (Project car)
1984 Camaro Z28, 1999 Oldsmobile Silhouette
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