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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 06:59 PM
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I have a 2003 s type R. There is a rattle from the engine top end sounds like the tappets tap tap tap but all at once ?

Issue 2

Coolant light comes on in dash display coolant full ?

Issue 3

No brake fluid in reservoir .

Issue 4

Chk engine light told its the 02 sensor

Any ideas on any of these issues appreciated
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Welcome to the forum Charliebearuk,

(I've moved your post from General Tech Help to the S-Type section because it's model specific)

When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST section and post something about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see.

In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice on posting to the forum.

Hope the guys here can resolve your issues.

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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 10:15 PM
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Maybe someone put regular grade fuel and you hear low octane preignition?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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Urgently decide whether engine disaster or just a noise. If former, ignore other faults till fixed. Else, leave till later.

Read up on other posts about coolant level sensor and heed warnings about fragility of the header tank.

Add brake fluid. DOT 4. First, check disks (especially min thickness) & pads and then check for any fluid leaks.

What OBD code? (There are 4 sensors of 2 types. Don't make a mistake...)
 

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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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The header tank is that where the coolant is filled? Do they have a sensor and ate 90$

The engine noise. Could that just be fuel sounds like someone tap dancing tap tap top end noise. This is an S R so was concerned about the supercharger being an issue?


The brake fluid leak I'm told its the abs unit needs changing

Last question does the supercharge oil need changing and how often ?


Thanks to my US cousins and guys back home for any more advise.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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charlie, does the engine tapping noise increase with rpm? Check oil and perform oil-filter swap. Keep some of the old oil for possible analysis. Don't mess with ABS tillthe brake system is fully analysed. As jagv8 suggests, check brake pads for excessive wear. Worn pads will cause calipers to dive deeper to press pads against rotor, in turn lowering fluid in reservoir.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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This for a quick reply has new pads rotors are shot on the r

Could the engine tap be lifters ? Never heard injectors make such a noise ?

Any thoughts and if its the lifters how much do you think at a specialist garage ?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:38 AM
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Hi bfs gross I just noticed you have an R. Does the supercharge oil need replacing ? How big a job is it ?

I'm down in and know only what I've read about r's
 

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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:12 AM
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SC oil - yes, not often, not likely to be urgent. There's a thread somewhere (maybe by tbird6).
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:12 AM
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2003 s type r
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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A mechanic has said it could be the supercharger bearing ?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
SC oil - yes, not often, not likely to be urgent. There's a thread somewhere (maybe by tbird6).
...do a search under my nic; I did it with a complete step by step process w/ pics! Hope it helps, and I extremely recommend it if you have high miles on your Str. Good luck.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Does the noise change or diminish at all, as the engine gets up to operating temperature?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Constant grating sounds more bearing any idea of cost to refurb a supercharger or could it be a cheap fix any options appreciated
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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First cheap and STR do NOT go together! So if this is your primary goal sell the car now.

You have posted a list with some expensive things in it. I don't even want to know how much the ABS unit will be.

Still in the dark as no mileage was posted but at least we do know the year and model. The noise could be the SC coupler but depending on the miles it might be better to have the entire unit serviced. Which would include new bearings and coupler as well as oil. This also won't be cheap.

Be SURE and change the hose under the SC if you take it off!

Are you willing to spend several thousand dollars on repairs?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Hi it's got just shy of 100k I found a place online which does an exchange program refurb for 500$ my concern is how many hours labor is it to take the old one out.

My next thing is how much are the pipes to replace?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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The hose is just a standard rubber hose. Which I think is part of the problem! So it's only about $20.



We have had reports of $1200-$1800 for the dealer or shop to remove and reinstall the SC. The DIY guys report about $350-$650 for gaskets and hoses plus about 18+ hours labor. It's not for the weak of heart and I have not changed mine yet. I do however have all the gaskets and hoses ready to go if and when it happens.



Be sure and check that rebuilder out completely on-line! People have had some run ins with Stiegemeier and I won't ever use him.



 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Charlie, charlie, charlie....slow down my man. You're getting way ahead of yourself. First: To test the supercharger bearing, remove the supercharger belt then spin pulley by hand and listen for bearing noise. With the belt removed, start her up. If she's quiet then either accessory drive pulley bearing and/or supercharger bearing. Do the same for the a/c: remove belt....
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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Gotcha kinda looking if tothis s type r or walk away ?
 

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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Dang Charlie! Thought this STR was already yours? Ask to take it to a mechanic to spec her out. Have him remove belts, test bearings and with belts removed, start her up and listen. If you are able to pin point a problem and it's basically economical i.e. replace pulleys, tensioners, a/c compressor, etc. then use this as a tool to negotiate a fair price ex: $6000
 
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