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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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I have finally gotten the Killer chiller install to the point of running the engine, I am in total awe over the results. I have not yet driven the car, we have only had it running in the shop. I removed the heat exchanger in the front & had a tank made of aluminun, it is mounted to the bottom of the bumper beam. We ran the car for app 1/2 hour after 10 minutes the intercoolers were so cold you could see condensation on them, after 20 minutes the whole bumper beam was cold.
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I hope to drive the car on friday morning, I will post results.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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Please do
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 04:53 AM
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Cool!
 
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:55 PM
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NICE!!
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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Any update?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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Scrumptious
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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JaXKR, "Where's the beef"?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:42 AM
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I have not had a chance to moniter with my laptop yet however we have been in quite a heat wave here in Mass. The other day after driving 15 minutes I was then sitting in traffic & watched the outside temp gauge in the car showing 106, the temp of the coolant coming out of the intercoolers was 75. This is totally amazing. I have also noticed that while cruising on the highway the discharge temp is the same as ambient. I still need to compare the IAT & IAT2. I can run the car hard on the highway & as soon as I let off the gas I can watch the temp go right back down. With this system instead of heat soak when idling you have even cooler temps. The car now runs like it does on a cool fall day. I will follow up with more details.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Holy cow! This separate s/c cooling system could be the answer to most of our higher horsepower dreams? We got to know how you did it! Step by step. I'm preparing her for a port/polish/pulley. We need your separate s/c cooling circuit plans.
 

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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OUCH! That's just wrong, man.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Yo Panthro! What's "...just wrong, man"?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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You made that disappear like...
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JAXKR
I have not had a chance to moniter with my laptop yet however we have been in quite a heat wave here in Mass. The other day after driving 15 minutes I was then sitting in traffic & watched the outside temp gauge in the car showing 106, the temp of the coolant coming out of the intercoolers was 75. This is totally amazing. I have also noticed that while cruising on the highway the discharge temp is the same as ambient. I still need to compare the IAT & IAT2. I can run the car hard on the highway & as soon as I let off the gas I can watch the temp go right back down. With this system instead of heat soak when idling you have even cooler temps. The car now runs like it does on a cool fall day. I will follow up with more details.
One thing to think about and I'm not sure if it is or isn't true with these cars.... The AC usually shuts off at wide open throttle. If you can edit that in the computer file, then you'll have even better results. The guys on the mustang forums have even better results than this because they're able to keep the KC running 24/7, even during wide open throttle. Have you noticed that the ac shuts off or stays on during wot?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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The a/c should already be switched off by the PCM during WOT.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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My 90 Infiniti Q45 used to do that above 130mph. It was very annoying but probably very necessary when I was having some fun in Nevada.

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 04:21 PM
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The a/c should already be switched off by the PCM during WOT.
Thanks for clarifying. You want the ac to stay on for maximum performance of the killer chiller if I read things right on the KC forum. Can tuners edit that with a tune?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Er.... you want the a/c ON? Why? Surely you want the FAN on. That's controlled separately, regardless of a/c (but a/c will make it more likely to be on, I expect). I don't think WOT will disable the fan.

The KC sounds so effective it probably doesn't matter!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Panthro, they don't call me "Magic Hands" for nothing, LOL! Otherwise, sorry for the raunch post.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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jaxxkr, are we going to get a step by step tutorial on your s/c chiller setup? It's all intriguing.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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Having the A/C will also rob power, not so good either. By having coolant reservoir of about 2 gallons, you will have enough cold coolant for at least 15 second full throttle (pending pump/reservoir), then the system will heat up if no radiator helps. So as long as you are not running on the autobahn or on a track the periods between wots could be just enough to have the system cold enough again for the next wot.

@JAXKR, Looking forward to some test data, do you know what flow rate you have and total coolant volume? Then it would be interesting to know when you start from the coldest coolant (as a baseline), how much seconds you have until the temps are going up (i.e. quick successive full throttle runs after one another), and also by how much the temp has gone up. And last but not least the time & temps when the coolant has circulated at least once. The next again how long it takes until the temp is again back it the coldest temp after driving normal for a while. Would it be possible to disable your alky system for the runs?
 
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