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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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You can almost always reuse gaskets and the like if you check whether their condition is good (for rubber ones, still rubbery LOL). Few exceptions (head gaskets, proceed with caution!).

They should be fine. Check they're not damaged at all and see if you can get them to go back in place, seated just as they were. By gentle with them rather than forcing them (not saying you would force them).
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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I would replace the upper and lower manifold gaskets, even with the "low" mileage on them. I believe that they are the collapsible type, atleast the lowers are.

I am not an expert on this but I would be safe than sorry.

If it were the MY2003 and up, it would be plausible to reuse with just over 1,200 miles on them.

Fel-Pro offers after markets that are reasonably priced at any BIG box auto parts store.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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Ah. If they're not the kind I guessed then yes play safe.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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Lets see if this page from Auto Zone loads:

These are the lower intake gaskets:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...artNumber=true

 

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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Loaded fine for me.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies guys.

I will be getting my parts and such from Autopartsway, so I can get 1 lower and 1 upper gasket for about 40$( a bit less) for the set.
I might as well order them, wouldn't want to have to do the job twice.

To confirm, i only need 1 upper and 1 lower, correct?

These are 3 of the parts I am ordering and going to be replacing,

2000 Jaguar S-Type Engine Intake Manifold Gasket in Canada - Canada 2000 Jaguar S-Type Engine Intake Manifold Gasket


EDIT, I also am planning on pulling and clearing the codes to see which of them pop up again, and see once the work is done, if any re-appear.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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I am not sure about the upper gaskets but the other 2 items look to be correct.

NO! you need 2 lowers and 2 uppers (intakes), sorry to tell you.
 

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by joycesjag
I am not sure about the upper gaskets but the other 2 items look to be correct.

NO! you need 2 lowers and 2 uppers (intakes), sorry to tell you.

great info, thank you, I will order 4 gaskets.

So I finally pulled the codes,

P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
P1386 Variable Cam Timing Overadvanced (Bank #2)
P1388 Variable Cam Timing Overretarded (Bank #2

I cleared them, going to take it shopping tomorrow and see what happens.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 06:23 PM
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If your sitting around having a beer and need a read, heres a thread about your P1386 codes.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...e-p1386-36688/

Unfortunately I have been cleaning puke buckets all day with 2 sick little ones and the wifey (Joyce) is out of town.

Also do a search on the P1388, there are many posts about this one!
 
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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Thanks for the link, when I searched it was the thread that I read up on the 1386/88 codes in, not of huge concern righ know, I might throw a quart of ATF before I change the oil.
I am running the recommended 5W30 synthetic oil, maybe next time I will try 10W30.

What has me concerned is the p0420, I am thinking it might be the post cat o2.

Edit: i drove the car, the 1386/88 codes immediately came back when the car was started and ran for a few minutes. It still had the rough idle. I am thinking it isn't a vacuum line but perhaps the VVT?

I mean i think it still a good idea to order the parts and replace them, but not sure that'll resolve the issue.
 

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Old Jul 11, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by joycesjag
I am not sure about the upper gaskets but the other 2 items look to be correct.

NO! you need 2 lowers and 2 uppers (intakes), sorry to tell you.

Hi Rick,
Do you need to replace both upper and lower gaskets? I got my lower gaskets (from RockAuto), but they didn't list lower ones. uhmmm..

More Information for FEL-PRO MS96485

uhmmm......

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Ah~~ I found it..

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1021186

It was on different section. I guess I will have to order these as well.
 

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:48 AM
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ndy those are them, note the difference between the MY 2003 and up lower intake:



Below are MY 2000 (1999 Euro) thru 2002 lower intake:

 
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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G'day all,
just wanted to give you folks an update!

SOooo, yesterday I attempted to put the many parts I purchased..well...on the car..
I was successfully able to remove the intake. I took my time and was able to make note of where all the bolts and hoses go. As I removed the intake I noticed that the shop which had just done the plugs and coils hadn't even replaced the upper intake gaskets when they removed the intake manifold. Anyway,

as I removed it, I got very overwhelmed when I looked at the lower manifold, so I decided to try the IMT O rings only to begin with. I just wasnt prepared to pull all the extra stuff to get to the L vacuum hose as I do not have any of the symptoms for it to have gone wrong.

Anyway, after I cleaned it up and put the new GREEN O-rings to replace the old YELLOW O rings, my problem improved. Seems to not have disappeared completely, but a drastic improvement is an improvement. Sooo, it wasn't as scary as it seemed.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Congrats the lower intake is no problem just a couple of more bolts (pretty easy actually).
 
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Well, I got scared off and didn't go the next step>maybe I should have...
I still have the rough idle, not for as long or as prominent, but still present.

Not sure if it has anything to do with the 1386/88 codes?
 
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Any thoughts on why still the rough idle??
 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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Probably air leak. See the many posts. Or coil(s) - again many posts.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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Giving as much detail as i can. I have a 2002 jaguar s-type v6 roughly 158,000+ miles and the car will idle rough. It does it in the morning and if the car has been sitting still for a while (temperature plays a part). I have had a tune up (spark plugs changed(not cheap ones), oil changed, valve cover gasket changed, did a gas treatment, cleaned the throttle body, replaced bank 2 vvt solenoid, both catalytic converts changed, coil packs (need to replace 1 p0304). Yes its a lot but it was not done all at once . When codes come up I jump on the problem right away. I am at a lost of what else could be going on. This morning it rough idled and the battery light flashed several times and the car was acting as if it wanted to cut off but then it revs back up.

Any thoughts.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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forgot to mention no codes are showing and the car "get up" power is a little slow when taking off.
 
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