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Old May 14, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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I needed to replace one of my upstream O2 sensors. Very uncharacteristically for Jaguar, you can actually get reasonable access to them!
I decided to do the right thing and purchase an O2 Sensor socket. Despite having the 'correct tool for the job', as I was attempting to loosen the old sensor, I could feel the socket spreading under the load. It was fairly obvious that, if nothing else, I was going to lose skin off my knuckles when the whole thing slipped.
But there is a bit of space, so I got out my trusty vice grips and clamped them over the socket, as shown in the photos.


The result was no springing, no lost skin off knuckles and a nicely removed sensor.
 
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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:16 PM
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good tip ... lateral thinking has it's rewards
 
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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:34 PM
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I also had that fiasco.

Trusty "Shifter", or Crescent in some languages, or Adjustable in other languages, had it out in 10 seconds. Took longer to unplug the socket connector.
 
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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:39 PM
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I hear pouring JD on the things loosens them up quite nicely.

(note to the inexperienced: not being serious here!)
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 04:05 AM
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I had JD for MY inner lube prior to that task, worked for me.

The inexperienced, I trust you mean in the PROPER use of JD, not in the actual mechanical experience??
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by plums
I hear pouring JD on the things loosens them up quite nicely.

(note to the inexperienced: not being serious here!)
I always use a thin layer of anti seize applied with a Q-Tip on the upper half of the O2 sensor threads when installing new.
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Grant Francis
I had JD for MY inner lube prior to that task, worked for me.

The inexperienced, I trust you mean in the PROPER use of JD, not in the actual mechanical experience??
Sort of.

I was thinking of a future novice with three posts stumbling
across this thread who did not know of the illustrious history
of JD inspired moments on JF.
 
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Old May 15, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Another way to remove the bad sensor is to cut the wire, then you can use a 22mm ring spanner.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by plums
Sort of.

I was thinking of a future novice with three posts stumbling
across this thread who did not know of the illustrious history
of JD inspired moments on JF.
I agree, BUT, the "SEARCH" should find it, NO??

Then I forget, there are just so many that have NOT come from a V12 to a "Modern", so the intake of such lubricant is simply lost on them, as is the language.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JagV8
Another way to remove the bad sensor is to cut the wire, then you can use a 22mm ring spanner.
Being new to OBD II cars, I am still building my trust sufficiently to really believe the car's self-diagnosis. What if it is wrong? By cutting off the connector I'd be ruining a perfectly good sensor!


I have to admit, though, that this makes two out of two for OBD - the sensor was faulty this time and so was the coil pack the car self-diagnosed last year.


So maybe next time I will believe the car and just cut the connector off so that I can use a 7/8 ring spanner.
 
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Old May 16, 2016 | 05:20 AM
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Worst case you could solder the wires.

But you can use a meter (DVOM) first at the plug to see at least if the heater is a sane ohms (compare with other side but should be about 1ohm) as it's often the heater that finally burns out (the code more or less tells you of course).
 
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Old May 18, 2016 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by roger.neill
Being new to OBD II cars, I am still building my trust sufficiently to really believe the car's self-diagnosis. What if it is wrong? By cutting off the connector I'd be ruining a perfectly good sensor!
Not exactly. O2 sensors are normal wear and tear items. They need to be replaced at specified intervals even if "good". Those intervals can be a little optimistic, though. There's no harm done in replacing them early, especially if suspect, or if they are of unknown age.

The early model ('99-02) sensors are not expensive at all. The later model sensors are more spendy.
 
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Old May 18, 2016 | 04:56 AM
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While I could be tempted to do 'routine maintenance' replacement of the upstream sensors, looking at the location of the downstream ones, I think I may be more inclined to wait until I am forced to do a change-over!
 
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