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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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this car is still being advertised 2005 s-type in immaculate condition.

now look at the picture.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by oz1701
this car is still being advertised 2005 s-type in immaculate condition.

now look at the picture.
Not many kilometres on the vehicle, but the faults could be something as simple as a bad ignition coil. Does the seller list a reason for selling such a vehicle in 'immaculate condition'?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 03:43 AM
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Here is the full advertisement : 2005 JAGUAR S-TYPE LUXURY X204 Sedan Cars For Sale in WA - carsales.com.au

its from a car yard so no reason for selling - i am surprised anyone would risk buying it here in Australia with a dashboard being lit up with scary error messages like that - and i thought it was hilarious that a car yard would show an image like that - talk about honesty in advertising lol!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:05 AM
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And it's still 32 grand...never ceases to amaze me how much Jags go for in Oz...

All depends what's wrong with it. Cruise not available is usually a side-effect of other error messages, if you could read all the codes or hook up an IDS to it before buying, and figure out what needed to be done beforehand....

But i could never pay that much, hell my XJR cost less than half that!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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It "could" just about be a failing battery.

If they'll let you, you could read the codes. (The codes PDF is in the FAQs but also post them by all means.)

Would be a crazy price even here but I hear very different there.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 05:38 AM
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HOW much??!
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 07:20 AM
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actually price wise that's pretty reasonable from a dealer in Australia. i would expect to pay around $35990.00 for a 3.00 litre 2005 - i paid $26400.00 for my 2003 2.5 with 68000 km on the clock a year and a half ago when they were asking 32990 for another 2003 2.5 with 98000 km in another yard. i still wouldn't buy a car that already was showing it had any issues unless it was a serious bargain.

Jaguars here are still a better deal than a comparable low mileage Mercedes or BMW (as well as being nicer cars but maybe i'm a little biased).
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Good grief, that's about twenty thousand quid for a car that'd be worth around seven over here! I recently bought a 2003MY 3.0 SE with SatNav, 48000 miles and full service history for £4500 from a dealer. Wonder if there's money to be made in export...?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 08:52 AM
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i know

but I'm still happy with my purchase
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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That's why I bought a right-hand-drive XJR, if/when we go back to Oz it'll be in with the furniture....
 
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There are "issues" with importing cars into Oz...

May be different when an Aussie is returning from working abroad?
 
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There are "issues" with importing cars into Oz...
Ah, I thought it sounded too easy
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Yes as a returning ex-pat I would be entitled to bring my personal vehicle home with me along with my household effects, should I feel so inclined...

OK it's not that simple, but a different story compared to import/export outside of moving...
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oz1701
actually price wise that's pretty reasonable from a dealer in Australia. i would expect to pay around $35990.00 for a 3.00 litre 2005 - i paid $26400.00 for my 2003 2.5 with 68000 km on the clock a year and a half ago when they were asking 32990 for another 2003 2.5 with 98000 km in another yard. i still wouldn't buy a car that already was showing it had any issues unless it was a serious bargain.

Jaguars here are still a better deal than a comparable low mileage Mercedes or BMW (as well as being nicer cars but maybe i'm a little biased).
Prices for things in OZ are crazy compared to the US.
Looking at homes, cars and appliances. WOW.
I hope that someone here in the US. making 60,000- 70,000 per year would translate to 160,000-170,000 per year just to make it liveable in OZ.
Is this the case?
It really puts me off planning a vacation there. Would love to go there..but. The US dollar and OZ dollar are close in value also.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Back in August 2001 to April 2002, one of my corporate colleagues at Nortel Networks was from Perth, Australia. For the three or four occasions he traveled from Perth to our Research Triangle Park offices here in North Carolina during that timeframe, his wife would compose a two-page shopping list of everything from athletic shoes and clothes for their kids to kitchen appliances and tools to you-name-it. He would bring three or four empty suitcases with him and by the time his return trip home rolled around after two or three weeks, those empty suitcases would be packed with the items from his wife's shopping list. He always said that they could buy two or sometimes three times as much basic stuff for the same amount of money by following this plan....
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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I hope that someone here in the US. making 60,000- 70,000 per year would translate to 160,000-170,000 per year just to make it liveable in OZ.
Is this the case?
Not even close mate. Why do you think I live in Switzerland now...

I earn nearly double here to what I would back in Sydney, with a higher standard of living, and in the end the costs are much the same as Oz.

Mates back in Perth (my home town) tell me that the cost of living has tripled in the last 10 years, average wages have gone up maybe 40% at most.

Unless you are working in the mines you won't earn anything near $160K, when I left in 2005 I was on $65K with a company car, plus an annual bonus $5-$15K, today they pay only $80K plus the extras.

I was visiting 12 months ago. $20 for a pack of cigarettes, $12 for a pint of beer, $4000 a month on your mortgage...bloody hell...
 
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Old Jun 19, 2012 | 02:42 PM
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Not even close mate. Why do you think I live in Switzerland now...

I earn nearly double here to what I would back in Sydney, with a higher standard of living, and in the end the costs are much the same as Oz.

Mates back in Perth (my home town) tell me that the cost of living has tripled in the last 10 years, average wages have gone up maybe 40% at most.

Unless you are working in the mines you won't earn anything near $160K, when I left in 2005 I was on $65K with a company car, plus an annual bonus $5-$15K, today they pay only $80K plus the extras.

I was visiting 12 months ago. $20 for a pack of cigarettes, $12 for a pint of beer, $4000 a month on your mortgage...bloody hell...
bloody hell is right, How do average folks make it there, can't imagine how a low wage earner survives!!!
I guess I will scratch OZ off my bucket list until I win the lottery ..lol.
Sorry OZ.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 02:28 AM
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I was visiting 12 months ago. $20 for a pack of cigarettes, $12 for a pint of beer, $4000 a month on your mortgage...bloody hell...
Whaaaaat??? And yet people still seem to leave the UK for Oz because they think they'll be better off! No chance, it's expensive enough here but nothing like that bad.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 04:11 AM
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The biggest problem, in Perth anyway, is the housing.
House prices have gone out of control, this affects rents too.

Example, my old family home.

Parents bought it for $180K in 1991.
Spent about $80K in renovations/maintenance over a 15 year period.
Sold it in 2006 for $800K (no misprint)
The new owner knocked down the house (so he paid $800K for the block alone)
Build a big two-storey McMansion, probably spent $500K on the build.
So now it's a property that owes him $1.4 Million (allow $100K in misc. costs).
What's he going to want for it now? At least $1.7M
And there my friends, is how you get a housing bubble.

Just an example about mortgage vs. rent;
A $700'000 Mortgage over 25 years at 7.5% has repayments of $5000 per month (roughly) and $700K doesn't get you much these days.
The same property will rent for $600-900 per week. Thats $2400-$3600 a month, in rent!

And forget about buying a European car...

I looked into the XFR prices in October last year, it's all converted back into GBP but you'll see what I mean;

Jaguar XFR 5.0L S/C, without any options, exchange rates according xe.com middle rates (Oct 2011)
Prices included sales taxes / VAT in the specific country (except USA).

United States $82,000.00 which is £51,540.00+Tax (doesn't include sales tax, which is state dependant)
United Kingdom £65,350.00 on-the-road, includes 20% VAT
Germany €92,700.00 which is £80,576.00, includes 19% VAT
France €95,700.00 which is £83,244.00, includes 19.6% VAT
Switzerland CHF 129,800.00 which is £92,117.00, includes 8% VAT

Last but not least, Australia $207,904.00 which is £135,233.00, includes 10% VAT, 5% Customs Duty and....
The LCT (Luxury Car Tax) of $45,234.00 (£29,500)

Yep....that XFR you bought last year for $85K cost $210K downunder...criminal...
 

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They don't want you to buy it.

Or... with that amount of tax, they really do!
 
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