Greetings,

I would like to ask, so I have now bad XR849534 - Engine mounting, right now I am searching for option to fix it. Right now I know that URO part is bad as other forum member already posted issue with it. New one costs very much about 650€ with taxes. So I am now thinking what about part from XFR C2D38505 - Mounting, in pictures it looks that it could fit by mounting points, but vibration absorbent is less in this part, does anybody tried going this way?

 

What is "URO part"?
I did a search for that part, and the usual outlet sell it indeed for the price, which you mentioned.
But I found it for US$53.78 on Amazon. That is about 1/10 of the price, which you found.

While I do not need that part right now, I have to contemplate now, if I buy one for myself (for my shelf), as I have three S-Types...

PS: On ebay, the part is also quite cheap, and even the local (Melbourne, Australia) parts dealer on ebay is not too bad for that part.

 

First............
We don't know the MAKE, MODEL, YEAR and gearbox fitted to this car.
Guessing is all that we have.(let the guessing begin)

 

Yes, I noticed that missing info reg. vehicle details... But the rear engine mount XR849534 is for all S-Type from VIN N15992 (that is definitely before 2004) and all the way up to 2008.
I just assumed that Erik1995 already did his homework, when he came up with XR849534...

 

Apologize, first time I posted on US jaguar forum, mostly used UK jaguar forum. I updated car data on profile. Car is S type R 4.2 supercharged 2005.

 

URO is manufacturer of aftermarket XR849534, unfortunately we already know that it is very bad alternative, not even close to original quality "too old classics" YouTube channel, had made this replacement, but later went with OEM version, and it was day to night comparison. I assume Amazon sells same URO manufactured part.

 

So question here is somebody tried to replace with mounting from XF 5.0 or XJR or other Jaguar model?

 

If the cheap version of engine mount XR849534 is indeed as bad as you say, I totally get your question, if XR849534 can be replaced with C2D38505, of which btw. there is also a cheap and an expensive version, while the expensive version is still much cheaper than that of XR849534. Those 2 parts look the same, but if they have indeed the same dimensions, I don't know, also, if the "rubber and it's design" inside is the same.

But I know that there seem to be 2 or 3 different versions of a similar part (used to stabilize the TC (transfer case)) on the X-Type, even though those parts look all the same - I think some are using softer rubber than others and there is a price-difference between those parts. Thus, it will be very hard to answer your question - It would simply be a case to trial and error (i.e. just try if it works).

But I have another idea - it may be a stupid one, but maybe it would work:
I found a youtube link, where someone tried with moderate success to fix his engine mount by giving it a PU-injection:


While I think that that is a stupid idea, it brings be to another idea: Maybe it would work to buy the cheap version of XR849534 and then reinforce it with a PU-injection, let it dry for a week and install it thereafter... That would also be a case of trial and error...

With a price difference of factor 10 between cheap and expensive XR849534, that's what I would try, if you are sure that using the cheap version of XR849534 (as is) definitely would not do the trick...

As I mentioned, XR849534 is also available from a Jaguar-Parts-Dealer in Melbourne, Australia. He charges about 60% more of what the cheap parts costs elsewhere. This tells me that the part, which he is selling, is the cheap part (and not the expensive one), but this dealer apparently does not see an issue with selling this cheap version, which makes me think, that it is maybe not so terrible after all...

Your S-Type is the 4.2L supercharged...
For me personally it would be very interesting to know, if the negative feedbacks you heard about the cheap version of XR849534 are actually all from supercharged S-Type owners, and then the question (supercharged or not), if they use their car in extreme ways - I don't know all the nonsense one could do with a car - just thinking of quarter-mile-races at the moment, or driving the S-Type in 4WD-territory.

 

Thank you for ideas and suggestions.
Right now I can say that I very much understand about what kind of vibrations is when mount is bad, due to that URO part uses different kind of rubber, the vibrations are not absorbed the way is should be done, I attached also pictures from internet and this YouTube video, that those mountings are quite different in additional absorbing rubber, on OEM it is softer.

It would be indeed helpful to know if somebody else used URO part and were satisfied with quality cause maybe it just happened one time with bad quality aftermarket part.

OEM

URO

But anyway right now I decided to try going with used oem from different model, XJR mounting, will install and then will post aftermath of all this.

 

FWIW, my over-inflated opinion:

I've encountered a lot of substandard parts for various vehicles. In many case, OEM quality parts simply are not available, or only at very high prices. Before gambling on aftermarket parts, especially mystery brands, I'll ask myself what are the consequences?

If the part were to fail, would I be stranded somewhere? Or could a failure cause a loss of control? Or would the fallout be more of a nuisance, such as a squeak or vibration?

How difficult is replacement? Is this a major chore you'd only want to do once? Or is it a relatively easy task?

So much like my day-to-day ethics, I also have a well greased sliding scale for parts procurement.

A couple of examples:

I recently replaced the clutch on my pickup. Lots of grunt work there, so top of the line parts.

Interior dome light burned out on my truck. I was more than happy to install a mystery bulb found in my pile of spare parts.

Those are two extreme examples at opposite ends of the risk/reward scale, but I think it helps illustrate the concept.

 

From Karl:
> If the part were to fail, would I be stranded somewhere? Or could a failure cause a loss of control?
> Or would the fallout be more of a nuisance, such as a squeak or vibration?
> How difficult is replacement? Is this a major chore you'd only want to do once? Or is it a relatively easy task?

Nicely put. I have those considerations also always in the back of my head.

And here some more considerations: You plan now to use an old OE part from a different model:
If it is from a different model, you might just get exactly the incorrect "softness" of rubber in the part.
Used means: Aged rubber - never a good idea.
There is only ONE person, who had an issue with the cheap aftermarket part? Well, that happens - that also happens with OE parts...

And here is one to think about: Supposed you buy the OE $600-part...: How can you be sure you did not pay $600 for a $60 part?

 

I bought one from noma auto parts in texas. Like new but used oem. If you find one there you can call them and ask for lowest miles one. It is pretty easy to change

 

Hello,

That's why I ask if maybe somebody already tried this. I am using used one to check, cause it is price reasonable to do such experiments as job is fairly easy, if all is good, then I could buy new from that model, in my mind if vibrations will be mitigated, then it could be called a success.

As for part because I buy part from Jaguar, with original packaging, serial number and visual of oem part is very different from non oem variant, see pictures above.
That's how I would know that I bought original.

 

Hi,

Thanks for idea,

I already checked Noma auto ebay page, did not find mounting from STR, will ask them actually.

Thank you.