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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 10:49 PM
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Default Mk2 3.8L Automatic Transmission fluid fill

During my short test-drive this past weekend it seemed like the automatic transmission was slow to change gear. I had an old Ford pickup years ago that did the same thing and I "cured" it by adding transmission fluid.

There does not seem to be a convenient tube sticking up out of the Jaguar's transmission like my old Ford and I don't see it in the manual. I have a Borg-Warner(BW) auto transmission.

Where/ how do you top off the transmission fluid in my LHD 61 Jaguar Mk2?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 04:55 AM
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no auto transmission fluid dipstick?

in my 1965 left-hand-drive 3.8 engine with BW auto transmission, the dipstick and dipstick tube are located on the passenger side of the engine, closer to the front, ahead of the carburetors.
 

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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 09:59 AM
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no auto transmission fluid dipstick?

in my 1965 left-hand-drive 3.8 engine with BW auto transmission, the dipstick and dipstick tube are located on the passenger side of the engine, closer to the front, ahead of the carburetors.
Thank you so much! I'll take a look when I get home tonight
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 12:04 PM
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Some where in the floor, I've seen this in the manual.
You have to peel back the carpet (I think on the left side) to expose a plug in the floor.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
Some where in the floor, I've seen this in the manual.
You have to peel back the carpet (I think on the left side) to expose a plug in the floor.
for a Manual transmission I suppose, but for an Automatic you need a dipstick.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 05:16 PM
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The early MK 2 Borg Warner (such as this 1961 car) has its dipstick and fill point in the cabin, under the console carpet area (see your owner's manual for exact location). Later cars, such as my January 1966 car, have a normal dipstick and filler tube on the right side of the engine.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
no auto transmission fluid dipstick?

in my 1965 left-hand-drive 3.8 engine with BW auto transmission, the dipstick and dipstick tube are located on the passenger side of the engine, closer to the front, ahead of the carburetors.
Is this what you mean?

 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sov211
The early MK 2 Borg Warner (such as this 1961 car) has its dipstick and fill point in the cabin, under the console carpet area (see your owner's manual for exact location). Later cars, such as my January 1966 car, have a normal dipstick and filler tube on the right side of the engine.
That's what I was thinking of, I know I saw a photo of that arrangement in the manual, but I was to lazy to go to the garage to be sure.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
Some where in the floor, I've seen this in the manual.
You have to peel back the carpet (I think on the left side) to expose a plug in the floor.
There is no carpet so it should be easy to find if the plug is there. I'll look tonight.

I have seen people recommending F-type fluid. Sound right to you?
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 08:40 PM
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Under that cap I am pointing at there is no dipstick...
 
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Old Feb 22, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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For what it's worth I have a 1962 MK 2 3.8L auto tranny & the dipstick fill tube is in engine bay rh side in front of the carburetors
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Originally Posted by gene61jag
Is this what you mean?

This is the vent for the brake servo, not a dipstick.

Page A.23 of service manual shows the dipstick to be under the console in front of the radio under a circular rubber cover plate, basically it shows it's under the ash tray on early cars
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by gene61jag
There is no carpet so it should be easy to find if the plug is there. I'll look tonight.

I have seen people recommending F-type fluid. Sound right to you?
Don't know anything about auto transmissions, I've never owned any vehicle with one and never will.
I just happened to remember that the dip stick on some of the Jags is inside the car.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TilleyJon
This is the vent for the brake servo, not a dipstick.

Page A.23 of service manual shows the dipstick to be under the console in front of the radio under a circular rubber cover plate, basically it shows it's under the ash tray on early cars
There's my problem. I was looking in Section E. - Clutch, not A - Regular Maintenance. I'll pull up my center console soon.

Grazie mille!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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no, that is a Breather Cap for the Brake Servo. It could be your car has a dipstick at the transmission tunnel. I do not see a dipstick in the picture.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 01:19 PM
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This is a hilarious thread, but not very helpful. I am not good at pasting links, but try googling "Valve Chatter MK2 service manual". Open the manual, and look at page A-8.1. It shows a picture of the dipstick behind the brake bleeder you pictured, below the two radiator hoses. Should be right above where the brake lines intersect on the fender wall. It gives instructions on how to check it- engine at normal idling speed, etc. That should fix you up!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2017 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
no, that is a Breather Cap for the Brake Servo. It could be your car has a dipstick at the transmission tunnel. I do not see a dipstick in the picture.
Except for the hand, right? Haha.

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Don't know anything about auto transmissions, I've never owned any vehicle with one and never will.
Yeah, not my first choice when I started searching; it just sorta happened. My other 2 vehicles are manuals.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by csbush
This is a hilarious thread, but not very helpful. I am not good at pasting links, but try googling "Valve Chatter MK2 service manual". Open the manual, and look at page A-8.1. It shows a picture of the dipstick behind the brake bleeder you pictured, below the two radiator hoses. Should be right above where the brake lines intersect on the fender wall. It gives instructions on how to check it- engine at normal idling speed, etc. That should fix you up!
This is for the later models, the page is actually A-S.1 (fig 19) (if my glasses are ok!) which is the supplementary information and shows the later dipstick position, on the early cars it is under the center console page A 23 (fig 17) as per my earlier post (#12)

Hopefully this is all a bit clearer and the offending dipstick can be found !
 

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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TilleyJon
This is for the later models, the page is actually A-S.1 (fig 19) (if my glasses are ok!) which is the supplementary information and shows the later dipstick position, on the early cars it is under the center console page A 23 (fig 17) as per my earlier post (#12)

Hopefully this is all a bit clearer and the offending dipstick can be found !
If we hadn't had social commitments I would have given this a serious search.
When I feel like I've found it I will take some pics.

Thank you all for your help. We will get this beauty running soon!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 10:16 PM
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Tonight I pulled and I pried and sure enough, the fill hole and short dipstick are under the center console, just off-center.

Thanks everyone for the help. We'll get all the fluids topped off and try another test-drive
 
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