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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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Hello today I saw this little spot of something similar to water.
I cleaned it up and it was like mold. Here is the picture before and after cleaning. Engine was warm when I saw this,
What could it be ?
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Guess: That core plug might have a minuscule leak. Clean it up a bit better; keep an eye on it.

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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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is it something difficult to fix if this continues ?
so basically is it coolant fluid ?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by xjfourty
is it something difficult to fix if this continues ?

If the plug is leaking you simply punch out the old one and tap in a new one. A bit of technique is involved. Cross that bridge if we get there. 'Tis no big deal

so basically is it coolant fluid ?
My guess is 'yes'

With the plug clean and shiny you might actually see a tiny perforation. But, if nothing else, if it fills up again and the liquid is the the same color as your coolant (green, most likely) then you'll know what it is

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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:49 PM
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I noticed a slightly decrease of coolant fluid in the expansion tank.
This may be explained...
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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I went to the mechanic.
He told me that he rarely saw leaking from those seals.
To replace it he will charge me 3 hours of labor... that is $400 to have the job done.
Otherwise he told me to try with a stop leak fluid to put in the coolant tank. He told me to remove 2 cups of fluid from the expansion tank and pour all the content of the bottle in the expansion tank.
Drive the car for 1 hour, and he told that the leaking would probably stop.
Should I do it ? What are the collateral effects ? May I clog the radiator in this way ?
Any hints are welcomed.
He gave me this product to try:
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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Ugh, I dare not say more !!!


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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JagCad
Ugh, I dare not say more !!!


Carl
Well, you may like to know that the official Jaguar manuals in th 80s on the XK engine advised the addition of a tin of Bars Leaks every time the coolant was changed.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 05:14 PM
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should I then go ahead with the leaks sealer fluid ?
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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Not going to argue with Frazer but I wouldn't...having used it in my RRover with catestrophic results as blocked radiator and gummed up cooling system. Many things have been recommended in the past which were found not to be beneficial today....just my opinion.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 10:18 PM
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No on the Barrs leaks

Clean the core plug 'till it's shiny metal then lay in some JB Weld. Let it set 24 hours.

Should stop a minor leak like this without having to goo-up the cooling system

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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 04:56 AM
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I was always told by my old man and his mates, don't put anything in the cooling system except water and anti-freeze (coolant) because it will block the system. Keep it flushed and fix leaks proprely if you want it to work like it should.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug
No on the Barrs leaks

Clean the core plug 'till it's shiny metal then lay in some JB Weld. Let it set 24 hours.

Should stop a minor leak like this without having to goo-up the cooling system

Cheers
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looks tricky to clean. there is some rust. Seems like I have to remove the cable management thing which is over there. I will use some thin sand paper to clean it better.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 09:37 AM
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if I use JB Weld on the edges of the seal (it's leaking from there) will this be a problem if later on I Decide to replace the core plug ?
thanks
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 10:11 AM
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No. It can be broken when hardened. And, if you or your "mechanic" knocks out the seal to reseat a new one, force will be used.


I've seen the detritus of Barr's in a radiator. Not pretty. But, that was decades ago. So, I withheld my comments on the thought that perhaps the formula had changed.


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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 10:21 AM
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Not in my view. force needed to remove the plug will fracture the JB just fine


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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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so I cleaned up as much as I could and then I put pretty amount of JB Weld to cover the edge and the top of the surface of the core plug.
Hope it will work. I won't touch the car for 2 days. on Monday I'll try to run for 100mi
and see the effects.
Has anyone tried to place a core plug ? $400 seems overpriced to it as well as 3 hours labor.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 10:22 AM
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A couple of thoughts.


Your mechanic does not want the job. So, a high quote and an "easy" answer.


At times those bad core plugs come out nicely and the new seats right in. At times, a big fight.


In this case access is limited by the air rail. removing it can be dicey. It may break!


But, a slide hammer should make short work of the extraction of that little one.


The JB is the way to go!!!


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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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yeah hope it will work fine...
I also have the impression he does not want to do the job.
I thought that the rail you were speaking about was the fuel rail is it the air rail instead ?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 12:01 AM
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looks like it did not fully work. I Still have leak even if minor. And given that the core plug is now full of JB Weld, the leak will move to the cavity of nearby spark plugs... not good...
 
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