2004 X-Type Diesel - Smoke Problems PLEASE HELP!!
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2004 X-Type Diesel - Smoke Problems PLEASE HELP!!
Hi
I am new to the forum and hope (1) I am in the right place, (2) Someone can help!
I bought my x type diesel sport 54 plate a few months ago. Naturally since looking for one I was over the moon when I got it.
At first I couldn't get enough of it but as time as gone on I don't enjoy the car but so much want to if I can get the problem solved.
I will give background info on what so far as this might help someone identify what the problem(s) might be and how I can check.
-The car had smoke issues when first bought so made it a priority to have it serviced. This included oil, filters coolant etc as well as a brand new EGR valve, belt tensioner due to rattle and belt.
It still smoked.
-Having looked through the forums I came across suggestions to have the inlet manifold cleaned. Although mine wasn't electronic EGR I still had this done at the garage. When the manifold was removed they discovered a rag jammed inside the far right port as you look at the engine. It defied belief as to how the car was running as I had driven to Blackpool, Ipswich and London without problems other than smoke!*Thankfully this was removed and manifold refitted.
It still smoked.
I then found on this forum the suggestion of a Jaguar specialist in Northfield Birmingham who was rated highly and took it there*to get him to look at it and find out why.*Hours later*he told me that they could not find a problem and said the car is in really good condition and on a test run could not find any faults. He did suggest changing the pipe that comes from the EGR valve which he said he could source an original for £40 and would not charge for the check. Once done with labour and vat the price was another £100 down.
It still smoked.
- Next was to source the other pipe that runs from the EGR to the Turbo as I was told if it wasn't one it could be the other. Another £50*down and cost to mechanic to commence fitting.*Once on the ramp he found the pipes that were on it were in*fact in better condition that the one I bought so back to square one.
He then found that*there was a leak from the manifold!
I bought all 8 new manifold gaskets and had them replaced, now leak free.
But it still smokes and I really don't have any ideas left or indeed a great deal of money to keep throwing at it.
The smoke I would describe as a light smoke. During the day I can drive*normally and enjoy the car as you don't really see the smoke. But at night with headlights behind it is very visible. I guess the*only way I can describe it is like cigarette smoke. Not white, Not black or grey. More like foggy colour but enough to put me off driving it or indeed enjoying it. I just let the car build up speed under its own*conditions almost like how 80 year old granddad would drive on a Sunday just so I don't become a problem to others.
The car has no warning lights no management light pulls lovely and heats up great although I notice the temperature gauge does seem to stay on*the low side all the time.
Oil and coolant levels are fine.
The car accelerates great. Although coming from a 1.8 petrol Mondeo this is such a big difference in power anyway I wouldn't know if its not as it should be.
I really am at my wits end.
A specialist cant find the problem. My mechanic cant find the problem.
Ideally I could do with someone who is a Jaguar owner/mechanic to*have a look.
Naturally this side of*Christmas doesn't fill me with much joy especially keep throwing money at it and not having the problem resolved or indeed be able to enjoy the car as*I really want to.
PLEASE HELP!!!!
It would really help if anyone can*suggest*what it might be. But just as important to tell me why and how I would go about checking*their suggestion*and more importantly with as little more outlay as possible.
Thank you for reading this and I await in anticipation.
*
I am new to the forum and hope (1) I am in the right place, (2) Someone can help!
I bought my x type diesel sport 54 plate a few months ago. Naturally since looking for one I was over the moon when I got it.
At first I couldn't get enough of it but as time as gone on I don't enjoy the car but so much want to if I can get the problem solved.
I will give background info on what so far as this might help someone identify what the problem(s) might be and how I can check.
-The car had smoke issues when first bought so made it a priority to have it serviced. This included oil, filters coolant etc as well as a brand new EGR valve, belt tensioner due to rattle and belt.
It still smoked.
-Having looked through the forums I came across suggestions to have the inlet manifold cleaned. Although mine wasn't electronic EGR I still had this done at the garage. When the manifold was removed they discovered a rag jammed inside the far right port as you look at the engine. It defied belief as to how the car was running as I had driven to Blackpool, Ipswich and London without problems other than smoke!*Thankfully this was removed and manifold refitted.
It still smoked.
I then found on this forum the suggestion of a Jaguar specialist in Northfield Birmingham who was rated highly and took it there*to get him to look at it and find out why.*Hours later*he told me that they could not find a problem and said the car is in really good condition and on a test run could not find any faults. He did suggest changing the pipe that comes from the EGR valve which he said he could source an original for £40 and would not charge for the check. Once done with labour and vat the price was another £100 down.
It still smoked.
- Next was to source the other pipe that runs from the EGR to the Turbo as I was told if it wasn't one it could be the other. Another £50*down and cost to mechanic to commence fitting.*Once on the ramp he found the pipes that were on it were in*fact in better condition that the one I bought so back to square one.
He then found that*there was a leak from the manifold!
I bought all 8 new manifold gaskets and had them replaced, now leak free.
But it still smokes and I really don't have any ideas left or indeed a great deal of money to keep throwing at it.
The smoke I would describe as a light smoke. During the day I can drive*normally and enjoy the car as you don't really see the smoke. But at night with headlights behind it is very visible. I guess the*only way I can describe it is like cigarette smoke. Not white, Not black or grey. More like foggy colour but enough to put me off driving it or indeed enjoying it. I just let the car build up speed under its own*conditions almost like how 80 year old granddad would drive on a Sunday just so I don't become a problem to others.
The car has no warning lights no management light pulls lovely and heats up great although I notice the temperature gauge does seem to stay on*the low side all the time.
Oil and coolant levels are fine.
The car accelerates great. Although coming from a 1.8 petrol Mondeo this is such a big difference in power anyway I wouldn't know if its not as it should be.
I really am at my wits end.
A specialist cant find the problem. My mechanic cant find the problem.
Ideally I could do with someone who is a Jaguar owner/mechanic to*have a look.
Naturally this side of*Christmas doesn't fill me with much joy especially keep throwing money at it and not having the problem resolved or indeed be able to enjoy the car as*I really want to.
PLEASE HELP!!!!
It would really help if anyone can*suggest*what it might be. But just as important to tell me why and how I would go about checking*their suggestion*and more importantly with as little more outlay as possible.
Thank you for reading this and I await in anticipation.
*
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Welcome to the forum digitallstudios,
I've moved your question from General Tech Help to X-Type forum. Members here with the same model will be able to help.
When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.
Graham
I've moved your question from General Tech Help to X-Type forum. Members here with the same model will be able to help.
When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.
Graham
#3
I've never owned a diesel car/truck, and to my knowledge the diesel X-Type was not imported into the US. Having said that, are you getting the fuel mileage you expect from this car? If one or more injectors were clogged with deposits the engine could be getting more fuel than it needs. Here in the states there are diesel fuel additives available in parts stores that have cleaning properties. Halfords have anything like that? The only other cause that comes to mind is a problem with piston rings - either they're worn or gunked up, allowing excessive oil into the combustion chambers.
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try a can of BG244 in it and see if it improves, because other than that you are looking at recon injectors £150-250 or live with it?
All diesels smoke a little and if you are poodling about will just make it worse, give it a good thrashing(as Basil Fawlty would say) or Italian tune up?
How many miles has it done?
All diesels smoke a little and if you are poodling about will just make it worse, give it a good thrashing(as Basil Fawlty would say) or Italian tune up?
How many miles has it done?
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