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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 09:06 AM
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Does anyone know how many 2005 X-type Sports with the manual transmission were imported to the US for the 2005 model year?

Does anyone have of a somewhat clean one for sale?

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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 12:01 PM
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Not a clue.

Mine is a 2003 with manual transmission. Even at 20 years old, it's still fun and comfortable and I still love it.
 
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Originally Posted by cujet
Mine is a 2003 with manual transmission. Even at 20 years old, it's still fun and comfortable and I still love it.
And I have a 2002 2.5 manual …a delight to drive and indeed fun and comfortable. We have owned 3 X-Types (two bing manual shifts), all very reliable, comfortable and handsome. Great cars…uh…wait, now I remember what people who have never even sat in one say: the X-Type was a colossal failure, nothing but a Mondeo etc., not a real Jaguar etc. I guess perhaps I should reconsider my own opinion. I must be wrong.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 10:28 PM
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And I have a 2002 2.5 manual …a delight t,,,perhaps I should reconsider my own opinion. I must be wrong.
I rent cars all the time, sometimes 3 in a week. There are very few modern cars that drive as well as my old X-Type. You are not wrong.

Rented a 2022 Accord Sport. Good God I could not wait to get out of that thing. It was truly horrible. Not only do you sit on the floor in the most uncomfortable seats ever made, but the car has nanny features that jerk you all over the road, and slam on the brakes during "spirited" driving, even when those features are disabled. The old Jag is a far more refined car. Quieter too.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 09:18 AM
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It took me years to find my 2003 5 speed in JRG (BRG). It was well worth the hunt!

 
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I have a 2005 X-Type Sport with the 3.0 engine and manual transmission that I'm looking to sell. Used as an occasional daily driver (I have 3 other Jags and a Ford SUV). Has 159,00 miles but runs well, but needs a catalytic converter. Fair body, good interior. Let me know if there's any interest on your part.

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Originally Posted by max224
I have a 2005 X-Type Sport with the 3.0 engine and manual transmission that I'm looking to sell. Used as an occasional daily driver (I have 3 other Jags and a Ford SUV). Has 159,00 miles but runs well, but needs a catalytic converter. Fair body, good interior. Let me know if there's any interest on your part.

Max
Hi Max, feel free to DM pictures if you have some. A bit higher milage than I am looking for.

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Old Mar 25, 2023 | 08:52 AM
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Still looking for a clean lower milage x-type sport manual from 2005. If anyone knows of one, please reach out!
 
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My X type is a 3.0 manual. I've made it into a sport by using Jaguar OEM sport springs and Bilstein B6 shocks. It rides amazingly well. I've fitted the bigger brakes from the Volvo S60 R/ Ford Mondeo ST225 and regularly changed the T case lube, trans fluid and diff fluid. I've changed the alternator, thermostat, waterpump , alternator to battery cable, and fitted carbon fibre OEM internal trim. I've fitted the very rare barbados wheels (rare in the USA). I changed all intake gaskets, coil packs and plugs for the better irridium NGKs. Next stage is to either fit Sport seats or try to find sportier seats from a CD132 platformed car.

I would focus on this sort of obsessive maintenance rather than focus solely on mileage, which is meaningless in the bigger picture. Mine has about 135K miles.

It's a 2002 so it uses the viscous coupling T Case for the proper 60 % rear torque bias, not the later cheapened out design. The later post 2004 cars also had less sporty handling. That said, my car RIDES really well. I just moved out west and was going to sell it, had a buyer interested but it fell through. I now have a company Acura Integra, but I prefer to drive the X type. It has a proper engine, rides better than the Acura (even with the Acura on the softest comfort setting), the engine sounds nicer and the whole car is more refined, with much nicer steering.

The car is totally rust free underneath and I took care of it well. I worked hard to make it dependable so I don't think I'll sell it. The engine oil stays clean for around 2000 miles.

With the number of folks low balling I dont think I'll sell it.
I'm not dealing with insulting low ballers and/or know it all (who apparently know better than the engineers who developed the actual car) who want a unicorn but will still low ball to the ground anyway. The values these cars fetch aren't worth the hassle.
The front windscreen is cracked, which I'll have to tackle and the bonnet open light keeps coming on as does the washer fluid empty light. The only reason I was talked into selling it before was because like me, that fellow used to work for Jaguar and was involved in the formative stages of the X types development (I was involved until the start of production).

I'll likely keep the car and upgrade it to the SVO 'super sport' prototype spec (that was never launched).
 
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I have a 2005 X type 3.0 with manual transmission. It's the sovereign which is pretty rare with manual gearbox.I had the transfer box replaced last year and got a refurbished one from Ebay which had come out of a 2003 and only covered 45000 so it has the viscous coupling which is reported to give better AWD experience.This is my third X type and have enjoyed them all.The performance of the 3.0 with manual is really good but back in the day when I was doing more miles the economy of the two diesels I had was really impressive.
For those that say the X type is not a "real Jag", I also had an XK8 and The X type in 3.0 mode is close to that in performance and in my opinion as comfortable and fun to drive . The Sovereign has a lovely Jaguar interior with all the toys you can need.A truly underrated car.
 
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The only people who underrate the X-Type are 1) those who have never driven or even examined one and 2) automotive journalists dedicated to adulating BMWs and claiming that the X-Type is a Mondeo.

Having owned 3 X-Types for very long periods (our 2002 manual 2.5 for 19 years, and the 3 litre Sportwagon for more than 10) we have found them to be very reliable, very comfortable, great road cars, well built and very well equipped. Proper servicing is important (which includes fluid changes, and that means the AWD transfer case as well as the transmission) - but that is no different from proper servicing on any car.
 
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Originally Posted by Count Iblis
My X type is a 3.0 manual. I've made it into a sport by using Jaguar OEM sport springs and Bilstein B6 shocks. It rides amazingly well. I've fitted the bigger brakes from the Volvo S60 R/ Ford Mondeo ST225 and regularly changed the T case lube, trans fluid and diff fluid. I've changed the alternator, thermostat, waterpump , alternator to battery cable, and fitted carbon fibre OEM internal trim. I've fitted the very rare barbados wheels (rare in the USA). I changed all intake gaskets, coil packs and plugs for the better irridium NGKs. Next stage is to either fit Sport seats or try to find sportier seats from a CD132 platformed car.

I would focus on this sort of obsessive maintenance rather than focus solely on mileage, which is meaningless in the bigger picture. Mine has about 135K miles.

It's a 2002 so it uses the viscous coupling T Case for the proper 60 % rear torque bias, not the later cheapened out design. The later post 2004 cars also had less sporty handling. That said, my car RIDES really well. I just moved out west and was going to sell it, had a buyer interested but it fell through. I now have a company Acura Integra, but I prefer to drive the X type. It has a proper engine, rides better than the Acura (even with the Acura on the softest comfort setting), the engine sounds nicer and the whole car is more refined, with much nicer steering.

The car is totally rust free underneath and I took care of it well. I worked hard to make it dependable so I don't think I'll sell it. The engine oil stays clean for around 2000 miles.

With the number of folks low balling I dont think I'll sell it.
I'm not dealing with insulting low ballers and/or know it all (who apparently know better than the engineers who developed the actual car) who want a unicorn but will still low ball to the ground anyway. The values these cars fetch aren't worth the hassle.
The front windscreen is cracked, which I'll have to tackle and the bonnet open light keeps coming on as does the washer fluid empty light. The only reason I was talked into selling it before was because like me, that fellow used to work for Jaguar and was involved in the formative stages of the X types development (I was involved until the start of production).

I'll likely keep the car and upgrade it to the SVO 'super sport' prototype spec (that was never launched).
From one automotive engineer to another, I enjoyed reading your post
 
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Old Mar 30, 2023 | 07:47 AM
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Hi, Count Iblis,

>> ...because like me, that fellow used to work for Jaguar and was involved in the formative stages of the X types development (I was >> involved until the start of production).

Obviously, it's a long time ago - the X400 design team... So memory fades after all that time, but maybe I knew/know you from back then:
I worked in Coventry on the X400 design team around 1998. My "thing" were the electrical side of various switches, and specifically the light switch...

Cheers, Peter
 
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Hey! I worked in powertrain, and quite feverishly trying to hit those power targets for the 3.0 and 2.1. The level was set high with the X200 3.0- which had much lower back pressure and intake losses.

Unfortunately the supercharged X type R was killed as was the X600 F type (which would have used the X types transverse drivetrain).

I emigrated to the USA 15 years ago.
 
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Hi Count Iblis,
Cool. The X600 looks a lot like the XK180, another prototype, which was standing for the while in the entrance lobby in Coventry. That curved XK180 windscreen was fascinating (but I guess, you are currently glad that YOUR X400 does not have such a windscreen, since it is cracked and needs replacement (and that would be expensive for such a curved windscreen)).
But I like the buttresses on the X600, similar to the ones on XJS.
I read in your text above that there is a difference in the pre and after 2005 T Box. I thought, it's always 60% rear and 40% frt.
I have a 2001 and a January 2004 AWD 2.5L X400. Are the T Boxes different?
I moved 2.5 years after the X400 project in Coventry ended from Germany to Australia.
 
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Hi Pete, yea, they changed the transfer case, the main reason was cost, as the X type was losing money hand over fist, especially in the USA, due to the strength of the pound at the time. When the X type didn't meet Fords heady sales targets, it was left with barely any development. All the later T-cases did was remove the epicyclic gear (which aportioned 39% torque up front etc) and the viscous coupling unit- so it was a non variable 50/50 split system A technical reason for doing this- was that the Transfer case produced alot of heat, and if the fluid eventually seeped out or dried up, the heat exacerbated this and the T cases would fail due to lack of lubrication. I've found that if you keep this topped up and fresh- the T case is usually fine.
Despite 'forum experts' on this very forum shouting me down and arguing with me, the strength of the T-case itself was adequate (the casing itself could have been a little stronger) as it was specced for the X type R which had alot more torque and power. The same with the rear diff which has a reasonable sized 180mm crownwheel (same size as a subaru)..

I loved the XK180 but I loved all the Lawson era Jaguars. They had the best Denso systems and often scored high (X308) on the JD power survey. I wish I could say the same about the Much vaunted Callum era stuff.

Yeah, I'm going to have to track down a winscreen. There are alot of scrapped X types here, one small mechanical issue, even the fuel pump and no one wants to tackle/spend the money, so I'll probably track down a used windscreen.

I lived in Germany for a few years, after Jaguar, for all my sins I worked for Hyundai Kia.

I currently have moved to racing (not with Hyundai) as this may be the last intense Internal combustion stuff I do in my career....

 
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Hi Count Iblis,
when exactly did they change the ratio on the X400 T Box? Is my January 2004 AWD still 60/40?

Yes, Geoff Lawson sure did design some amazing stuff, but there is one thing I did not like, and Ian Callum fixed it:
The (new) S-Type was built in Castle Bromwich, and it sure is a "funny" twist to design the centre of the dashboard of the S-Type in the shape of the x-section of the wing of a Spitfire aircraft, which was also build in Castle Bromwich. But I did not like that fat centre of the IP and Ian Callum fixed that with the second facelift (2004). The XK8 grille and XJ8 (X308) complete dashboard are nicer reminders of the wing-shape.

Talking about wings, and you having moved to racing: I wonder why racecars like F1 don't yet have a vertical stabilizer with a rudder (like aircraft) to support stability in the curves (supporting the wheels)... (sometimes I have strange ideas...)
 
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Originally Posted by Peter_of_Australia
Hi Count Iblis,
when exactly did they change the ratio on the X400 T Box? Is my January 2004 AWD still 60/40?

Yes, Geoff Lawson sure did design some amazing stuff, but there is one thing I did not like, and Ian Callum fixed it:
The (new) S-Type was built in Castle Bromwich, and it sure is a "funny" twist to design the centre of the dashboard of the S-Type in the shape of the x-section of the wing of a Spitfire aircraft, which was also build in Castle Bromwich. But I did not like that fat centre of the IP and Ian Callum fixed that with the second facelift (2004). The XK8 grille and XJ8 (X308) complete dashboard are nicer reminders of the wing-shape.

Talking about wings, and you having moved to racing: I wonder why racecars like F1 don't yet have a vertical stabilizer with a rudder (like aircraft) to support stability in the curves (supporting the wheels)... (sometimes I have strange ideas...)
I dont know the exact date, sorry, but know it was changed for 2004 model year. Yours is unlikely to have the earlier viscous box.

Yeah, the indy cars have that rudder/wing - that looks like an old D type. I've been told that if it spins it helps to minimise rotation.
 
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For those considering the X-Type automatic to manual conversion, you will need:
Manual transmission, of course
Baffle plate, between the engine and transmission
Shifter, complete with knob, cables and clips
Clutch pedal assembly, complete w/switch, connetor, leads
Transmission bracket to support
Flywheel (OEM is DMF)
Clutch pressure plate & disc
various bolts
Note: engine/transmission bolts are similar to AT but different combination of lengths.

It should be possible to change the existing vehicle configuration file with SDD.

 
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Originally Posted by Count Iblis
My X type is a 3.0 manual. I've made it into a sport by using Jaguar OEM sport springs and Bilstein B6 shocks. It rides amazingly well. I've fitted the bigger brakes from the Volvo S60 R/ Ford Mondeo ST225 and regularly changed the T case lube, trans fluid and diff fluid. I've changed the alternator, thermostat, waterpump , alternator to battery cable, and fitted carbon fibre OEM internal trim. I've fitted the very rare barbados wheels (rare in the USA). I changed all intake gaskets, coil packs and plugs for the better irridium NGKs. Next stage is to either fit Sport seats or try to find sportier seats from a CD132 platformed car.

I would focus on this sort of obsessive maintenance rather than focus solely on mileage, which is meaningless in the bigger picture. Mine has about 135K miles.

It's a 2002 so it uses the viscous coupling T Case for the proper 60 % rear torque bias, not the later cheapened out design. The later post 2004 cars also had less sporty handling. That said, my car RIDES really well. I just moved out west and was going to sell it, had a buyer interested but it fell through. I now have a company Acura Integra, but I prefer to drive the X type. It has a proper engine, rides better than the Acura (even with the Acura on the softest comfort setting), the engine sounds nicer and the whole car is more refined, with much nicer steering.

The car is totally rust free underneath and I took care of it well. I worked hard to make it dependable so I don't think I'll sell it. The engine oil stays clean for around 2000 miles.

With the number of folks low balling I dont think I'll sell it.
I'm not dealing with insulting low ballers and/or know it all (who apparently know better than the engineers who developed the actual car) who want a unicorn but will still low ball to the ground anyway. The values these cars fetch aren't worth the hassle.
The front windscreen is cracked, which I'll have to tackle and the bonnet open light keeps coming on as does the washer fluid empty light. The only reason I was talked into selling it before was because like me, that fellow used to work for Jaguar and was involved in the formative stages of the X types development (I was involved until the start of production).

I'll likely keep the car and upgrade it to the SVO 'super sport' prototype spec (that was never launched).
Hi Count Iblis!

If you ever decide to part with your X-type, please send me a DM.

 
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