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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 07:43 PM
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Hopefully someone can give me a clear answer on this. Ever since I have owned my car (a tad over a year now) it has thrown the P1000 code meaning it won't complete it's check cycle. Is this going to cause me any issues at my smog check in the state of California? I have researched other threads where people say it will effect the testing and then others have said the comprehensive component monitor transmission drive cycle has a waiver on it which means the computer will automatically bypass it and the reason for the wavier on the comprehensive component monitor transmission drive cycle is because Ford installed a leak censer in the X type that goes bad & takes for ever to reset.

I have no idea if any of this is true. I can not see how an emissions test could be affected by the P1000 code personally, but wanted opinions before hand so I know what to expect.

My hope is someone know for sure. Thanks in advance

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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 08:40 PM
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daddylogan, this is something that you will have to ask local people about as each region (not sure if it is by city or by county in your area) will have different interpretations and different rules as to what is acceptable and what is not. Keep in mind that you have like 7 different tests that the car does that all have to pass to get the P1111 code. With the computers that the state uses, it will see each of these tests. So, it may very well be possible that as long as the engine check is good (ie, not emitting too much smog) and maybe a few others, then they will pass the car. Granted, some places may simply look for the P1111 code and that is their standard.

The big thing that you need to keep in mind is that some of the checks will not complete if you have over 3/4 of a tank of fuel and/or less than 1/4 (specifically the vacuum canister check for a leaking gas tank). The test is very sensitive and having too much or too little fuel can throw off the test. The other thing that can throw things off is if you don't have the constant 12VDC signal to the ECU. This will cause the car to run normally and it will do all the checks and after say 30 minutes of driving, it will give the P1111 code. But, as soon as you turn off the car, the memory goes away. So, the next time you start the car, it will be as if it is the first time the car has ever started and it starts at the P1000 state. This is where you may need to plug in a code reader, go for a 30 minute drive and see if it reaches the P1111 code. if it does, then that pretty much confirms you have a constant 12 VDC issue.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2017 | 09:08 PM
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Hi Thermo.....I have done all those things you have mentioned and it still throws the P1000 code no matter what I do. Have never seen a P1111 code ever. The car runs perfect. The only other issue I have ever had (which I believe you and I discussed before) was that when I put the car into 2nd gear, it throws a P1780 code (Transmission Control Switch Circuit is out of self test range) and ONLY in 2nd gear and the light comes on for the drive train. To clear it all I have to do is turn the car off and back on and it is back to normal. I also noticed something else with that issue. When it does occur, all of the gear selection lights are inoperable...meaning the red light that lights up for the gear you select is blank. Once I go into 2nd via the J-Gate no matter where I move the gear selector to, no red light to identify that gear is actually selected. Maybe that is a clue to something. I believe before you told me it was probably a bare wire on the 10 pin connector in the J-Gate, but as long as I stay in drive there was no real issue then? Any more thoughts on that? Thanks for your quick replies as always my friend ;-)

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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 01:54 AM
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Generally, nowhere looks for P1000 or P1111. They're pending codes not actual codes.

However, both are status values and it's what they mean that is the problem (when it's a problem).

What the smog/etc places check are the OBD monitors. And its those that result in P1000/P1111.

You can use OBD to look at the status of those monitors, just as the smog/etc do.

Once you know how many and which are not set (aka complete) you can check with your region's requirements.

Summary: Most cars do not use P1000/P1111 in this way. Ford/Jaguar (& others) do this but it has no effect in itself on smog/etc checks because it's the status of the OBD monitors which is checked. Pending codes are not checked.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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logan, I would say to pull the cover off of the gear shift and look down inside the gear shifter. You can have the engine not running, but the car on, and go through the gears to see if something pops out the side of the shifter and strikes a power cable. NOt having played with the shifter on the X-Type, I am not sure what sort of external parts may move, potentially leading to what you are seeing.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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Ok...I am here to answer my own question and so all California X-Type owners will know. The P1000 or the P1111 codes have NO BEARING what-so-ever on the smog check and my car passed with flying colors. As a matter of fact they have new ways of measuring the parameters and my whole test took 8 minutes. They checked the gas cap, looked under the hood and hooked into my OBDII port. Next thing I know they back the car out and said "done - passed." So looking at my report here is what they measure:

1) Computers, sensors, Switches and Wiring.

2) Fuel Metering System

3) Catalyst

4) Crankcase Emission Controls

5) Fuel Evaporative System (EVAP)

6) Other Emission related components/Systems

7) Vacuum Lines to Sensors/Switches

8) Liquid Fuel Leak check

9) Smoke Check

Anyhow...a nice relief to know!

Thermo....I will pull the cover off and take a peek and a picture of the J-Gate. I will PM you with any other questions so the title of this topic doesn't stray into other fixes and if we can figure it out, I will make a thread on it for others. Sound good?

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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 10:23 AM
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Logan, I am game. I will find the post and we can take things from there.
 
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