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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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HELLO GENTS AND LADIES,

So maybe someone can help. I purchased a set of H&R springs. Lowered the car and cut just the top coil in the front.....the slam is now uniform in the rear and the front. Installed 18 XF rims with 225/45/18 tires on and got an alignment at sears.

I drove the car for 6 months. Tires very loud....back tires are ok with barely any wear. Now the front got completely worn out with like 8000 miles.

Question is whats my solution? Is it the TOE? I know they dont have camber for this car but should I take it back to sears?

Any help would be awesome since snow is around the corner and trying to keep the most tread I can...

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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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It's your camber. Lower a car, and your camber gets screwed. Your solution is to return to stock height.. Sorry. I have the same problem with my sport
 
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Stock height SUCKS! LOL!!!
 
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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I feel your pain man, but there are no camber kits for this car. If you research the camber kits for other cars, they are just a couple washers for the front. I know some bimmers just need washers to correct the camber, but some need a whole kit. I haven't dealt with the front suspension on the xtype yet, but if you get under there and see someplace that a washer would help your camber, throw it in and see what happens. I'm trying to find a donor car with an adjustable rear control arm so that we can adjust our rear camber, but it's way hard to find. Good luck
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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I don't think your alignment was right. You should have more camber in the rear with H&Rs and a coil out of the front. My guess is your camber is about 2 degrees rear and 1.3 degrees in front. So camber isn't your (only) problem. Springs may have settled, too. So Sears could have been within spec right upon install and when the springs settle 1/3 or 1/2 inch, toe will go out and you'll get more wear.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:54 PM
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Your probably right. I did the alignment probably 5 days after and with spacers! I took the front spacers off after the alignment because it was rubbing on fender. You think removing the spacer also made a difference? My rear sits really low now too. I'll try to get pictures up.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Oh and sears could've probably dicked me too cuz when I asked to see the printout he said they had shredded it :-/
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 02:41 PM
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ricky, I'd love to see pics!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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I'm at work right now and work till midnight... i think there's old pics before i put the spacers on... on an old post. but I'll post up new ones tomorrow.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Hey I am also having the same problem as you, the inside of the fronts on mine are almost smooth now. Going to buy a new set before winter and try getting an alignment again and see how much I can fix it.

I would also really like to see pictures, especially of the front. The only thing that has bothered me since day 1 after these springs is that the front sits up higher than the back. If I can lose a coil and correct that I will be in the garage tonight doing it.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ahhhhwhoa
Hey I am also having the same problem as you, the inside of the fronts on mine are almost smooth now. Going to buy a new set before winter and try getting an alignment again and see how much I can fix it.

I would also really like to see pictures, especially of the front. The only thing that has bothered me since day 1 after these springs is that the front sits up higher than the back. If I can lose a coil and correct that I will be in the garage tonight doing it.
Agreed - and yes, that will even the gaps a bit more. The rear fender line is lower though, so a little less gap in back is okay, but H&R leave a little too much in front without a minor trim.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by exexpat
Agreed - and yes, that will even the gaps a bit more. The rear fender line is lower though, so a little less gap in back is okay, but H&R leave a little too much in front without a minor trim.
I did look up his older post and saw a few pictures there, but would really like to see some side shots of the car to see how it sits.

exexpat if I remember right you said a half coil = 1/2" maybe 3/8".. is that all that needs to be taken off? (half coil)
 
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Independent suspension generally has 0.7 degrees of camber change per inch of wheel travel.

So, if your wheel travels up, the top of the tire moves in, the bottom out.

This is so the tires can remain flat on the road, as your car leans in a corner. (solid rear axles don't need this, as both tires remain flat on the road)

The bottom line, on a car with unadjustable suspension:

When you lower it, you tend towards more "negative camber" and therefore wear out the inside edge of the tire.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Update? I would love to see pics with the coil cut halfway
 
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by disguay
Update? I would love to see pics with the coil cut halfway
Agreed!!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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Here it is.. sorry the delay guys.
 
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Old May 10, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky305
Here it is.. sorry the delay guys.
The car looks good Ricky, I'm getting a set of the XF wheels soon.
 
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Old May 11, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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If your interested I'm selling my xf wheels ... Let me know if your interested :-)
 
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Old May 11, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky305
If your interested I'm selling my xf wheels ... Let me know if your interested :-)
I sent you a PM.
 
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Old May 13, 2013 | 01:42 AM
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I think you need to change those side markers!
 
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