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Old 04-01-2010, 12:38 AM
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have anyone seen or used that turbo kit selling on eb@y? cost around $500

#260481877660 - Jaguar X-Type T3T4 TurboCharger Turbo kit


Curious to hear on how it runs!
 
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K... I'll be gentle.

First off for comparison purposes a T3/T4 turbo kit for say, an RSX retails over $2500 easily. Why? Because its actually MADE FOR THAT CAR. Secondly, look up the prices on a Garrett T3/T4 turbo (just the turbo itself costs over $600). That should be a pretty big red flag (if the simple fact that its a $500 'turbo kit' on ebay isnt).

If you look at the pics/read the description you'll see that all they give you is a turbo, junk intercooler, some random pipes and coupling, and a crappy electric fan. All rubbish. And that turbo timer! LOL. Simply put, this "kit" is maybe only 3% of what you'd need to actually succesfully build a turbocharged X Type. I say 3% because you could probably use those clamps and air filter, the rest is a bunch of Taiwanese junk.

If anybody is running this turbo kit on their X Type, my best bet is that the car has long since exploded into a ball of flame and they've crashed into a freeway divider.
 

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Old 04-01-2010, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ufoz8mycow
K... I'll be gentle.

First off for comparison purposes a T3/T4 turbo kit for say, an RSX retails over $2500 easily. Why? Because its actually MADE FOR THAT CAR. Secondly, look up the prices on a Garrett T3/T4 turbo (just the turbo itself costs over $600). That should be a pretty big red flag (if the simple fact that its a $500 'turbo kit' on ebay isnt).

If you look at the pics/read the description you'll see that all they give you is a turbo, junk intercooler, some random pipes and coupling, and a crappy electric fan. All rubbish. And that turbo timer! LOL

If anybody is running this turbo kit on their X Type, my best bet is that the car has long since exploded into a ball of flame and they've crashed into a freeway divider.

LOL, Im not buying it!!, i just installed a new engine in my x-type..Im just curious if anyone have installed one..

I would never think anyone would make such a thing for a already hot engine due to the Cats being against the block, thats calling for a melt down for sure.

BTW**love your name**Just seen a UFO pass Blue Diamond Road!
 

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Buy a sts universal turbo kit and build your own. That kit is $2500 to start. I have a friend that used that kit to build a system in his 08 nissan xterra and is putting down 421 rear wheel hp with 10 boost out of a 4.0 v6
 
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LOL, Im not buying it!!, i just installed a new engine in my x-type..Im just curious if anyone have installed one..

I would never think anyone would make such a thing for a already hot engine due to the Cats being against the block, thats calling for a melt down for sure.

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You in Vegas??

If the Xtype had a better drivetrain I wouldnt hesitate to go forced induction. I could even work with the somewhat high (for boost at least) 10.5:1 compression. The tranny and diff would die within a week the way I drive though. This car would be a hoot to drive with 300whp.
 
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U sure the Duratec is up to a turbo? I mean the STS systems are great in that anyone can replace a muffler with a turbo, but is the motor up to it?
 
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U sure the Duratec is up to a turbo? I mean the STS systems are great in that anyone can replace a muffler with a turbo, but is the motor up to it?
On a stock motor? Probably not for long. Its all about the tuning. You wouldn't be able to run very much boost but on a built motor with lowered compression and proper tuning... No problem.

When I get my other car I might build a little GT30 turbo kit for the Jaag just for ***** and giggles, turn the boost up to 20psi and drive the **** out of it until it breaks.
 
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The duratec can withstand a mild supercharger but anyone with any sense of reason wouldn't want to turbo charge it. Turbos work best with lower compression engines. To do it right you'd want to lower the compression ratio to the 8 to 8.5 range instead of 10.5. At that you'd really only see about a 20-25 percent gain in power compared to a stock x type engine as you needed to detune the engine for the turbo. A supercharge would fit nicely with the duratec as it would give a bunch of low end grunt (right where the engines tend to lack grunt). I know there are some bolt on kits for the other duratecs so in theory it would be possible to do it from a kit.
 
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[quote=ufoz8mycow;190987]You in Vegas??




yep! i sure am! - Mountains Edge Area

NOT Near Area 51 though

WOW this trend went beyond what i thought it could be... NICE INFO EVERYONE!

Hey ufo8 you want a 2.5L block? i have one and you could try and blow it up on a built your own Turbo project.
 
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Originally Posted by benebob
The duratec can withstand a mild supercharger but anyone with any sense of reason wouldn't want to turbo charge it. Turbos work best with lower compression engines. To do it right you'd want to lower the compression ratio to the 8 to 8.5 range instead of 10.5. At that you'd really only see about a 20-25 percent gain in power compared to a stock x type engine as you needed to detune the engine for the turbo. A supercharge would fit nicely with the duratec as it would give a bunch of low end grunt (right where the engines tend to lack grunt). I know there are some bolt on kits for the other duratecs so in theory it would be possible to do it from a kit.
Compression doesn't care whether it's a supercharger or turbocharger, all the engine knows is it's getting more air in. There's more to tuning forced induction than just CR. A lot of newer engines can survive on boost with higher CR due to better quench characteristics and better internals, etc. There's a lot more to it than just 'lower your CR'.
Personally I think if somebody is willing to go FI on these cars then they should be prepared to upgrade the weak components like every other smart tuner has done since we started modifying cars. That's why I have three drivetrain builders in mind already.
 
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Originally Posted by *****-k
yep! i sure am! - Mountains Edge Area

NOT Near Area 51 though

WOW this trend went beyond what i thought it could be... NICE INFO EVERYONE!

Hey ufo8 you want a 2.5L block? i have one and you could try and blow it up on a built your own Turbo project.
Damn dude you are minutes away from me... I'm in Spring Valley near Rainbow/Hacienda. You'll probably have some ufoz sightings since we live so close haha. Friday night there is usually a car meet at Fort Apache / Sahara next to the movie theater. A lot of dope cars come out, I think I'll be there tonight since my car is actually nice and clean today.

If it was a 3.0 block I would so take it for exploding via boost purposes.

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Compression doesn't care whether it's a supercharger or turbocharger, all the engine knows is it's getting more air in. There's more to tuning forced induction than just CR. A lot of newer engines can survive on boost with higher CR due to better quench characteristics and better internals, etc. There's a lot more to it than just 'lower your CR'.
Personally I think if somebody is willing to go FI on these cars then they should be prepared to upgrade the weak components like every other smart tuner has done since we started modifying cars. That's why I have three drivetrain builders in mind already.
Its all about the tuning and like you said, filling in the weaknesses left from the factory.

I've actually seen high comp SR20s making insane power... It was a few years ago but the guy was running 11:1 CR, 9,500rpm redline, obviously a ridiculously fully built motor and a GT35 turbo which I think he swapped out for a GT40 later. That car sounded unbelievable on the track and left my *** in the DUST on the straightaways (in my car with 325whp).
 
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Originally Posted by chknhwk
Compression doesn't care whether it's a supercharger or turbocharger, all the engine knows is it's getting more air in. There's more to tuning forced induction than just CR. A lot of newer engines can survive on boost with higher CR due to better quench characteristics and better internals, etc. There's a lot more to it than just 'lower your CR'.
Personally I think if somebody is willing to go FI on these cars then they should be prepared to upgrade the weak components like every other smart tuner has done since we started modifying cars. That's why I have three drivetrain builders in mind already.

Sure if the engine was designed for keeping it cool with a turbo (which the duratec was not). Fix your cooling system first then look at the other weak components. Keeping the compression high and turboing a duratec is simply bad idea. That is unless you're a fan of Vega style heads. There is a very good reason why most non supercar turbo engines aren't the highest of compression engines. They want them to last through the warranty.
 
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