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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 04:27 AM
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Dear All,
Could you please show me the right thread? I am sure there is one, but I could not find it.

2003, X-Type, 3.0, automatic Exec.

I bouth the car with one original key. I had it cloned in a local shop using a key of a salvaged car. This happened 2.5 half years ago. I am mostly using the cloned key, the original is the reserve.
One day I went to work with the car in the moring without problem. I closed the car with the reomte. Upon returning the remote did not work. I could still open the car and start the engine with the key, but the remote function is gone. I replaced the battery, but this did not change. The original remote works fine.
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about pairing but I am not sure if this is the one I need/should follow. Is that really it? Are there other instructions, concerns? What I am worried about is the car dropping the original key...

thank you for any assistance!
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 10:00 AM
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 11:24 AM
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Thank you, but I saw this and this does not help. My problem is not intermittent, it is constant and with one key only. Battery replaced.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 02:57 PM
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I wish I could help you. I recently bought a 32,000 2005 X-Type. Fantastic car. In excellent condition, basically showroom. The twist is there was only one key and fob that functioned. I bought two keys and fobs online and made an appointment with the Jaguar dealer. I got there and they refused to program my keys and fob. Even the extra one. Said they couldn't guarantee a successful programming and it might cook my control box and then I'd have to buy a new one that is currently unavailable. They did offer to sell me a key and program it for $ 800.00 US. I thought there were laws against highway robbery. I do have some information my son forwarded me on how to program the keys and fobs, but I am a bit hesitant in fear of balling something up. I am also concerned with my only key and fob going bad.
I am going to follow this thread in hopes of gaining some knowledge.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Dear stephenniz,
Your problem is not the same that I have. What you need to do is to CLONE the key you have. This way your car will not distinguish the 2 keys, they will be identical, both will be operational. This is what I have done. It cost me appr. 60 USD in a local kay-shop.
My problem is that after 2,5 years the clone has lost the reomte function.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 09:34 PM
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You're mixing up terms here.

The KEY isn't the problem. The REMOTE is the problem and the two are not related.

The key has a small transponder chip inside. This is programmed one time, and all it does is respond to a ping made by the car computer. It has absolutely nothing to do with the remote functions of the fob.

The fob/remote is a radio transmitter, that sends a code when you push a button -- that code tells the car what you want to do. It has a battery, which is a possible point of failure, as is the circuit board. Another possibility is that there is contamination between the rubber buttons and the circuit board.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 05:21 AM
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Dear Sone,
Thank you for the clarification.
I decided to go through with the process and it solved the issue for that key, bit inmediately the other key dropped the remote function. So I reprogrammed that too. And then it dropped the first one again.
So now, if I reprogram one key, the other loses the remote function.
What should I do?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:06 AM
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When you program the keys, you have to do both keys at the same time. Once the car is in program mode, and pings, you have to push a button on each remote First one (ping) and then the other (ping), for the car to recognize them within the timeframe
I believe the X-type can recognize up to three fobs.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 01:35 PM
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Wow!
It worked!
Thank you ♥

 
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 09:51 AM
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I've read this a couple of times now and think I understand but can someone please clarify:

1. I have one key/remote switchblade thing for my car.

2. It sounds like I can find/buy a USED key/remote and program the remote functions along with my existing key/remote so that I have TWO remotes that will unlock etc the car. But only one will actually START the car at that point - the original with the correct cut blade and transponder.

3. Then I can buy a key blank and transponder parts and have those cut/programmed to work with my car and combine that with the remote so that I have two fully functioning keys/remotes/assemblies?

Am I understanding that correctly?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2021 | 01:05 PM
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That's right. The fob, key and transponder are three separate items.

New fobs are available. If you have the fob, a new blade (key) can be cut. There aren't a lot of people who can do the cut, but the blade is just held with a roll pin so is easy to install.

The key needs a transponder that the car will recognize. This means either cloning your existing chip, or programming the car computer to accept a chip. Cloning can be done by just about any locksmith who does auto keys.

 
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