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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 08:50 AM
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Sometimes when my car is idle or even driving i hear a click sound from the engine , i checked my engine when it was idle and when I heard the click noise the air conditioning pulley had completely stopped moving but the belt was still moving over it. Other than that the air conditioning works great and you can see the clutch working too

What causes it to stop fully? I am changing the belt and tensioner soon but if this is happening the air conditioning pulley then maybe something there needs to be replaced.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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It's like your fridge - should cycle on & off as it needs to cool.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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The air conditioning compressor has a clutch system in it. When cool air (or dehumidification in winter) is called for the clutch engages the internal parts. When not needed it disengages. Obviously the belt and pulley need to keep moving with the car running, lol.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:46 PM
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The AC pulley is a 2 piece clutch unit the exterior face only rotates when the electrical clutch is energized and then compressor is ON. When the compressor is shut off the face stops rotating. The center pully is still turning or you would have a lot of smoke and noise, that is what happens when the clutch fails.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 02:55 PM
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Been there done that, lmao. As well as the opposite, clutch failed but wouldn't engage. The latter is nicer, no "Oh my hell, the car's on fire"!!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 06:39 PM
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Okay thanks guys, maybe the clutch is just going in mine with the loud click it makes.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 06:52 PM
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The audible sound is normal
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dell Gailey
The audible sound is normal
agreed...it should be audible
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 07:34 AM
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I found it strange that the engine revs fluctuate from normal to poor when the a.c. clutch engages
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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Something sounds wrong. The PCM knows when the a/c is engaged and knows how to rev up a little to handle it so what you have shows it's not working right - low on a/c gas maybe? Failing compressor? Or... what?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 12:03 PM
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So clarification? By "normal to poor", how are you judging that? At idle when the compressor kicks on, there is a decrease in r.p.m.'s as there is a load added.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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I think jag V8 might be right. I had recently changed my EGR valve because the last one seen better days and gave up, but my new one mysteriously stopped working and the car was in limp mode and 5 mins later the power came back and my car took off until it cut out again. Also ive done a leak off test and basically all my injectors failed but i have taken them all apart and clean them and they were perfect. i even replaced the control valve and tested the nozzles and still they seem to fail. this made me think that the timing must just be off. Funnily enough the timing going off is a symptom of a bad PCM (ECU). I have a check engine light too that comes and goes but i thought this was due to me blanking off the new EGR that ive another problem with. I will look into this, maybe i can replace the ECU with a ford modeo ecu and then recode the injectors with the Fordiag software
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 07:48 PM
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dell it would be easier if i showed a video or had an audio clip of it happening, but basically when its poor the car sounds like its under pressure and the whole sound of the car ticking over drops, not close enough to stalling but close enough to be concerned, if i had to audio clips of normal and of the poor and played you each one separately you would almost think its two different cars. I think jagV8 could be on to something. ill update in a few weeks if i get it sorted or anything changes.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2018 | 08:52 PM
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Ah.....Diesel. So I'm assuming you do not have a steady or blinking glow plug icon on dash?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dell Gailey
So clarification? By "normal to poor", how are you judging that? At idle when the compressor kicks on, there is a decrease in r.p.m.'s as there is a load added.
Not if it's working right. There should be an increase in revs.

The PCM knows it's engaging the compressor, which is an extra load, so revs up to handle it.
 
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