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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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I mentioned a short while ago about possible diff lock as a result of hard braking when wheels have been changed to different diameters from when the X Type left the factory.I couldnt find the thread to add this to the original topic so here is an update after I contacted Jaguars Paul Grantham to explain this (even though rolling diameters may be similar check out the bit about tyre wear):-
"All on board computers need an accurate wheel speed signal to calculate such things as ABS, DSC and transmission shifts and therefore the correct wheel information has to be programmed into the instrument cluster be means of IDS or WDS.
This is a critical piece of information for correct operation of some of the safety features within the vehicle, the instrument cluster will even make a correction for tyre wear it is that critical."
 
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I mentioned a short while ago about possible diff lock as a result of hard braking when wheels have been changed to different diameters from when the X Type left the factory.I couldnt find the thread to add this to the original topic so here is an update after I contacted Jaguars Paul Grantham to explain this (even though rolling diameters may be similar check out the bit about tyre wear):-
"All on board computers need an accurate wheel speed signal to calculate such things as ABS, DSC and transmission shifts and therefore the correct wheel information has to be programmed into the instrument cluster be means of IDS or WDS.
This is a critical piece of information for correct operation of some of the safety features within the vehicle, the instrument cluster will even make a correction for tyre wear it is that critical."
Cool info from the Buckmaster as always. Thanks Buck, not that I'm considering it myself u understand.

Jim C
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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I remember the thread, but the key to it is the TIRE. The info. programmed into the cluster or pcm is actually "RPM" (Revolutions Per Mile) of the tire. Consequently, rim size wouldn't matter, as long as a lower profile tire is used to maintain the same (or close) RPM.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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This is part of the email I sent to him where I mentioned the overall rolling diameter of the wheels:-
Can you clarify something for me...you mentioned about having to have new (larger) wheel diameters programmed into the message centre if I remember in order to avoid possible damage to the drivetrainpossibly locking up under heavy braking.[/align]Does this need to be done even if the rolling diameter is more or less the same?
[/align]From this I got this reply:-[/align]
All on board computers need an accurate wheel speed signal to calculate such things as ABS, DSC and transmission shifts and therefore the correct wheel information has to be programmed into the instrument cluster be means of IDS or WDS.
[/align]I know what you mean about overall rolling diameter RudyF6 and specifically pointed this out to him but he still says it needs to be programmed in.[/align]
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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lucky for me i have a manual and no DSC.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Lucky for me I kept my factory rims and tires lol
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I don't understand that bucky? If the overall diameter of the rim/tire combo are the same as the stock one how could it possibly need to be adjusted? Apparently you feel the same way as we all do...What do we have to do to fix this?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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I don't think there will be a problem with going to 18's. The tire overall is the same size as the factory 17's so everything will work fine...i wouldn't sweat it....now going to 19 and 20's is a different story
 
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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If it were me and I had fitted different wheels from when it came out of the factoryon mine from what I have been told by the (very knowledgable) Jag man himself I would be contacting my dealer about this programming in of a different wheel size.Wouldnt want my diff to lock up under heavy braking.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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18's will work just fine....won't be an issue....guaranteed
 
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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I still don't understand this racer maybe you could put some logic on it...If the overall diameter is the same when you go from 17 to 19 inch what does it matter? As long as the width doesn't increase and it stays at the 7.5" wide and what not why would it matter as long as you keep the profile of the tire right with the equation i.e. 35 series with 19, 40 with 18 and 45 with 17...................
 
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