Replaced coil, now many problems
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Replaced coil, now many problems
2002 Jaguar X-Type with the 3.0 liter engine
I replaced number 5 coil. Bolted everything back together with new gaskets and spark plugs. Reconnected plugs. Engine did not want to start until I unplugged the 6 pin connector located on the air intake tube. After starting, I reconnected the plug and the engine continued to run. The instrument panel showed:
DSC Fault,
Gearbox Fault,
Engine Systems Fault, and
the engine would run only in "limp home mode."
Do the codes need to be removed before the engine will run correctly again? I have re-inspected all of my work, removing and reassembling everything. I really didn't want to limp down to the local BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar repair shop and have to hawk my first born in payment to have my probable simple mistake(s) taken care of. Where have I erred? It's things like this that remind me as to why I love my 1983 CJ-8 Scrambler. The only electronics is the "spark box" on the firewall and the radio!!
Thank you for your help,
Dave
I replaced number 5 coil. Bolted everything back together with new gaskets and spark plugs. Reconnected plugs. Engine did not want to start until I unplugged the 6 pin connector located on the air intake tube. After starting, I reconnected the plug and the engine continued to run. The instrument panel showed:
DSC Fault,
Gearbox Fault,
Engine Systems Fault, and
the engine would run only in "limp home mode."
Do the codes need to be removed before the engine will run correctly again? I have re-inspected all of my work, removing and reassembling everything. I really didn't want to limp down to the local BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar repair shop and have to hawk my first born in payment to have my probable simple mistake(s) taken care of. Where have I erred? It's things like this that remind me as to why I love my 1983 CJ-8 Scrambler. The only electronics is the "spark box" on the firewall and the radio!!
Thank you for your help,
Dave
Last edited by GGG; 09-05-2015 at 10:36 AM. Reason: add Model & Year details
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[QUOTE=GGG;1302418]Dave,
sounds like you might have damaged the Mass air flow sensor( broke a wire or bumped the sensor to hard or the connector isn't seated)When you unplugged it or the connection was lost the car is running on set standard programmed into the computer NOT signals from the Mass Air sensor. Plug it back in and see if it reacts the same, if it does try clearing the codes AFTER confirming all connections are good.
sounds like you might have damaged the Mass air flow sensor( broke a wire or bumped the sensor to hard or the connector isn't seated)When you unplugged it or the connection was lost the car is running on set standard programmed into the computer NOT signals from the Mass Air sensor. Plug it back in and see if it reacts the same, if it does try clearing the codes AFTER confirming all connections are good.
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When removing the top of the air box along with the tube with the mass air flow sensor in it, I removed the screws and left the plug connected laying it to the side. I have since removed the plug and reinstalled it to no change. I did find, though, that the two-wire plug going to a black unit on the driver's side of the intake manifold had cracked from heat. the center part of the plug with the wires running through it are still intact. It seems that the prongs on the inside of the black receptacle do not actually go into the fittings on the end of the wires so they must just touch, it this correct? What is this apparatus?
Also, the engine will not start even with the plug on the passenger side of the intake disconnected (which it had done previously in limp-home mode). When trying to start, the engine kicks over briefly and then dies as if starved for air or fuel. Getting quite frustrated. Would you have any other suggestions? Thank you, Dave
My mistake . . . I realized that the engine failing to start was the result of my not having the air tubing along the the mass airflow sensor in place. It started, still in limp-home mode, but at least it started. This tells me that the MAS is operational.
Also, the engine will not start even with the plug on the passenger side of the intake disconnected (which it had done previously in limp-home mode). When trying to start, the engine kicks over briefly and then dies as if starved for air or fuel. Getting quite frustrated. Would you have any other suggestions? Thank you, Dave
My mistake . . . I realized that the engine failing to start was the result of my not having the air tubing along the the mass airflow sensor in place. It started, still in limp-home mode, but at least it started. This tells me that the MAS is operational.
Last edited by cissdm; 09-15-2015 at 03:18 PM.
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I did find, though, that the two-wire plug going to a black unit on the driver's side of the intake manifold had cracked from heat. the center part of the plug with the wires running through it are still intact. It seems that the prongs on the inside of the black receptacle do not actually go into the fittings on the end of the wires so they must just touch, it this correct? What is this apparatus?
FYI, back in the day cars used a carburetor to control air and fuel. Now, the throttle body controls air flow, and fuel injectors manage fuel flow.
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The 2 wire plug below the throttle body is probably causing all of your headaches. When I did my coil and plug change out the plug with 2 wires fell apart when i unplugged it. I was able to get each of the wires plugged back in to there original position. I had enough of the plug body left to keep them separated.
Contact Jagbits and see if they have a pigtail or a used connector. Once that is repaired clear the codes and then go for a start up. if you still have a problem let us know what the codes are.
Contact Jagbits and see if they have a pigtail or a used connector. Once that is repaired clear the codes and then go for a start up. if you still have a problem let us know what the codes are.
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Limp mode
Check the inertia switch on the passenger side lower side panel first
I replaced number 5 coil. Bolted everything back together with new gaskets and spark plugs. Reconnected plugs. Engine did not want to start until I unplugged the 6 pin connector located on the air intake tube. After starting, I reconnected the plug and the engine continued to run. The instrument panel showed:
DSC Fault,
Gearbox Fault,
Engine Systems Fault, and
the engine would run only in "limp home mode."
Do the codes need to be removed before the engine will run correctly again? I have re-inspected all of my work, removing and reassembling everything. I really didn't want to limp down to the local BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar repair shop and have to hawk my first born in payment to have my probable simple mistake(s) taken care of. Where have I erred? It's things like this that remind me as to why I love my 1983 CJ-8 Scrambler. The only electronics is the "spark box" on the firewall and the radio!!
Thank you for your help,
Dave[/QUOTE]
I replaced number 5 coil. Bolted everything back together with new gaskets and spark plugs. Reconnected plugs. Engine did not want to start until I unplugged the 6 pin connector located on the air intake tube. After starting, I reconnected the plug and the engine continued to run. The instrument panel showed:
DSC Fault,
Gearbox Fault,
Engine Systems Fault, and
the engine would run only in "limp home mode."
Do the codes need to be removed before the engine will run correctly again? I have re-inspected all of my work, removing and reassembling everything. I really didn't want to limp down to the local BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar repair shop and have to hawk my first born in payment to have my probable simple mistake(s) taken care of. Where have I erred? It's things like this that remind me as to why I love my 1983 CJ-8 Scrambler. The only electronics is the "spark box" on the firewall and the radio!!
Thank you for your help,
Dave[/QUOTE]
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