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Old 12-21-2016, 07:55 AM
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Good morning everyone!
This is going to be my first post on the forum (I will make a propper introduction thread when I get home later, it's sort of funny how I ended up with an X-Type, and I bought it from a forum member!)
So I recently bought a 2005 X-Type 3.0, manual. It had 89.6k miles on it at that point, and an slight whine coming from the transfer case. I figured then when I changed the oil the first time I would flush the transfer case and all would be right in the world. If only. Last night (now with 93.5k miles on it) I noticed a tiny little puddle under the car where I park, I got down with a flashlight, and sure enough the transfer car was wet. It's also been louder. At this point do I fix the leak and fill it back up? Or do I just get it rebuilt because of the miles? I like to drive in a spirited way, so I'm kind of thinking rebuild just based on that.
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If you do decide to go down the rebuilt unit route please drop us a line, we have the best prices on rebuilt (by OEM) transfer boxes in the US, they come complete with 3 year guarantee.

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Old 12-21-2016, 08:21 AM
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Congratulations on your car. I had a 2005 3.0 manual as well. Very rare model. That was the last year for the manual transmission. Hope you have good luck with it.

As for your issue, you were definitely wise to change the fluid. Could you have just overfilled it and the excess is coming out?
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:40 AM
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If I go the rebuild option I think I'd like to beef it up a bit. And I should have been more clear, it was going to be changed at 94k miles, so 500 miles from now. So this is the old fluid coming out.
 
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I'm thinking most if not all the TC fluid is gone, and the whine you're hearing is the resulting complaint. There's not a lot of fluid there (about half a quart), so I'd address it soon. Jaguar specs 75W-140 synthetic; pictured is my product of choice for this and also the rear differential.
 
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I'm thinking most if not all the TC fluid is gone, and the whine you're hearing is the resulting complaint. There's not a lot of fluid there (about half a quart), so I'd address it soon. Jaguar specs 75W-140 synthetic; pictured is my product of choice for this and also the rear differential.
I'll look into it more tonight, order parts if I need to, and try and knock it out before Christmas. But before I spend hours searching, anyone know of a good write up on fixing the leak? Or is it not that complex? Thanks.
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:11 PM
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So I've just jacked the car up and crawled around under it, and I'm actually more confused, as I couldn't find a source of the leak, but perhaps I wasn't looking in the correct place. Liquid is pink which I think is gear oil? Any, any and all help is appreciated.
 
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Pink would lead me to believe transmission fluid. The transfer case would be honey colored when new and then dark when old. Another source of pink fluid is the power steering. Check the power steering level and see if it is low.
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:23 PM
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That would explain why my transmission feels like its set in concrete on cold mornings... I will check the power steering, but I'm quite sure it's not that. So now I have something new to look into!
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:30 PM
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what i would do if i was in your position ,take it to a jaguar dealer have the tc fluid changed the transmission fluid changed and start from there thats the only time you need to go to the dealer ,other work go to a trusted garage they will give you an idea whats going on then take that free knowledge and go to a trusted garage
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:47 PM
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I believe my nearest Jag dealership is over 2 hours away, and at that point I would take it to the indie shop that the previous owner used. That said, I don't think this requires such drastic measures. At least not yet.
Thanks for your reply.
 
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There are plenty of threads here on how to change transmission and TC fluids if you want to DIY. The TC fluid is a little tricky as you have to raise whole side of car to drain, then reverse to fill.
 
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Originally Posted by OCJagg
So I've just jacked the car up and crawled around under it, and I'm actually more confused, as I couldn't find a source of the leak, but perhaps I wasn't looking in the correct place. Liquid is pink which I think is gear oil? Any, any and all help is appreciated.
I think your drip is coolant. Check hoses, water pump, expansion tank. The water pump is on the driver side of the engine; easy to change but you have to take the battery out. Expansion tank failure is very common. Pictured is the water pump on my car with battery removed. It is belt driven from the camshaft and is an easy replacement. Thermostat is below the upper radiator hose; airbox has to come out to get to it.
 
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Originally Posted by swingwing
I think your drip is coolant. Check hoses, water pump, expansion tank. The water pump is on the driver side of the engine; easy to change but you have to take the battery out. Expansion tank failure is very common. Pictured is the water pump on my car with battery removed. It is belt driven from the camshaft and is an easy replacement. Thermostat is below the upper radiator hose; airbox has to come out to get to it.
It's funny you should say that, I was just coming on here to say that I think it's actually coolant. It didn't look like it was the waterpump, there is some dried crusty pink residue under the expansion tank, but I don't see a source, and it wasn't leaking today (maybe because it was warmer today?) I'll do some more digging.
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I do believe I found it, but I can't tell if it's the hose, the clamp, or the tank.
 
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Picture #3 in your previous post was tip-off for me. Clarity of that drop is too clear to be ATF. Compare to a drop of coolant from your expansion tank and you'll see the match methinks. Oddly enough I'm wrasslin' with a radiator leak in my '04. Looks like a new radiator install for me.
 
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Yeah, Its most certainly not ATF for my car, haha. I suppose I'll just order a new tank and hose. Is there a preferred vendor? I know for my Volvo's I used IPD, was wondering if theres an equivalent (possibly the one in this thread?)
Thanks for all the help.
 
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trust me take it to the dealer we now they are thieves but you get free info and the the right fluid for peace of mind , then after take it to your trusted garage ,any mess up they have to take care of it
 
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I have used site sponsor SNG Barratt for some parts. They have a good website, and will also send you a free parts catalog that's handy to have. Another source I use frequently is Rock Auto. They've got a super website with wide selection of parts, and great prices. I have bought parts from eBay (headlight adjusters from England) and have bought from local Jaguar dealership for some items (say hood liner). Once you know the part number (Barratt's catalog or website) you can search different sources and pricing. I've been an AMSOIL dealer for last 20 years so I use their fluids exclusively; PM me if you'd like more info. Interesting that you mention IPD; I owned some Volvos back in the 80s and used to buy parts from them too. I even visited the business in Portland a long time ago and met founder and owner Richard Gordon. He had a great story about how he started the business making parts for his Volvo race car, which then caught on with others.
 

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I ordered a Behr radiator from Rock Auto yesterday for $160. Just received shipping notice that I'll have it by next Thursday. Could have got one quicker from local O'Reilly store for close to $400 for a Murray part. Thanks, but I'll wait. By the way, here's link to Rock Auto for two choices on the expansion tank. They've got most hoses and other cooling system parts too.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ank+hose,11576
 

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Clean the crusty coolant and wipe off all the wet spots that you see, then watch the coolant level and every sources of pink liquid, need a bright flashlight.
 

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