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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 05:49 PM
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Hello Jag. X-Type gang! After 4years figure out how to remove the blow engine and how to put another one in; I had a tight and low ceiling so I can't hoist the front end up to drop the whole sub-frame down. Because I have to removed everything any way, so I have to naked both engines and lowed it down and hoist other one up with a wooden crossbar and small chain hoist. Finally I got it done and put the engine back together. I thankful to Thermo during that time he gave me a lots of advises.
Now that the car is ready to start up, but it can't do with out a hick-up: Oil in, coolant (just water for now I need to flush the system any way) in, jump start the battery.to 14.30 volt ( I also have to buy a new battery if it run). I put the key in and turn; IT JUST QUIET! Not really, the noise of radiator's fan run, interior lights were on brightly the chime's sound, except the engine nor the starter. Because I stepped on the brake pedal many time and power booster had no compress air to assist the brake I can't push the brake pedal far enough tho touch the switch? Can any body give me the advise? And I have to call for Thermo again..
 
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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 06:26 PM
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Thanguar, I would first start with putting the key in again and looking on the center console for the security light. From what you are describing, you should see a flashing red light. If this is the case, then you have lost the programming to the ECU or the PATS module. If that light is not flashing, then I want you to shift the car to neutral and then attempt to try this again. You may want to even try starting the car in R and D just to see if you haven't knocked something loose in your misadventures of putting in the engine. If the car does not see the tranny in Park or Neutral, it will not start.

Next, press and hold the TRIP Button. With the button depressed, roll the ignition switch to the RUN position. Keep holding the TRIP button in. When you see the instrument cluster say "Engineering Test", release the TRIP button. Now, press the TRIP button a bunch of times (about 50). Be watching the information center as things go scrolling through with each press (of note, the cluster at first is going to do some pretty weird things like turn on all the lights and sweep the gauges through their full range of motion, this is normal). Stop pressing when you see it say "LC XXXX" (where XXXX is going to be a 4 digit number between 0 and 1000). This is telling you the percent illumination that is being selected for the instrument cluster (000.0 to 100.0 percent). If you press it 5 more times, it should read "CR -O". This will tell you if you have your engine run signal present (if you see CR -B, then you don't have this signal). You can then press the TRIP Button one more time and you should see "AC -O". If you see "AC -B", then you are not getting the accessory voltage signal to power up the computer to tell them to wake up. That will cause a lot of stuff not to work. The final thing that I would do is to press the TRIP Button 4 more times till you see "RE -X". With the car in PARK, you should see "RE -O". If you shift the car to REVERSE, it should change to "RE -B" This check will be a good indicator if you have a shift lever that may need to be adjusted or repaired to let the car know that it is in PARK or NEUTRAL and is safe to start.

Lets see what we have with these first few checks and then we can narrow things down. Right now, I see too many possibilities to make a fruitful swing at figuring things out.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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Thanks Thermo, you Jag.knowledge always helpful, I'll try the trip button, but I can't shift out of "park". I'll keep ever boy update.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2021 | 04:54 PM
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Thanguar, With the tidbit about not being able to shift out of Park, it may very well be that your shifter has a problem and the computer is not seeing the car in Park/Neutral. have you checked the fuse for the shifter? It may be something that simple.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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HELLO! I just want to up date on my car. Thanks Thermo and also sorry to make you wrote a long advise; First was my bad, after read your replied I saw AC-B on the message, so there are some of component didn't connected to ECU, I found out I forgot to screw in the ground wire from ECU, then I found a connector didn't plugged together..after had them done, the engine turned but still do nothing, but now I can shifted to all the gear, it's a good things, I went out to bought a bottle of Lucas engine fuel system cleaner, put it in the gas tank, pushing the rear bumper up and down to shake the gas tank. Now the good news: This time the engine tried to start, but I guess the bad gas can not kept the engine running. It dark and cold, and my Volvo ran on High rev. too long to jump charge its check engine light is on. I'll put some new gas in tomorrow and another bottle of fuel additive in see if it start. Good night, and wish me luck.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 08:21 AM
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Thanguar, keep at it. Sounds like you are almost there. Lets us know where you end up stopping and we can take things from there.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 07:23 PM
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Hello friends, Good news and not so good: Today I put a couple gallons of fresh gasoline in the tank,look at the fuel gauge it still had 3/4 of gas in it, I thought maybe 2 gallons of new gas would not enough to get it running, hooked up the jump cable, turned the key, the engine shaking, I tried several times; YOOH HOO! it started. Hallelujah! and it kept running, smoke filled the garage, but I wouldn't mind.. I let it ran for awhile and turn it off. I when to Walmart bought a new battery put in, turned the key, the baby started right up and kept running.
But every thing not all that smooth; 1- the water leaking out from reservoir, but that's minor, I already had a spare one.
2-The engine sound little rough and doesn't Idle.
3-Bttery light is on, I check the voltage, it shows over 15+ volt.
4- A red warning light is on: the one on Odometer, round shape like a setting symbol on smartphone, with little thing in the middle, I took the picture but I can't loaded it on my laptop, I will scan it tomorrow to see if it give what kind of codes. Thermo I think you know what symbol I was talking about. Thanks.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 07:53 AM
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Thanguar, I would start with cleaning the throttlebody. I also seem to remember that there is a small hole in the throttlebody that is an air bypass. If you have any build up in the throttlebody, you can get a rough idle because the throttlebody is fighting to control the air due to it sticking.

As for the voltage, this is sounding like your voltage sense wire is not connected and the ECU is seeing 0 VDC which is causing the alternator to raise the voltage (hence the 15+ VDC output). This is probably what is causing the red oval light (just above the info center screen) to light. This can cause the engine to do strange things as the reference voltages it needs to make are not being held at a good voltage. If you have the service manual for your car, go to section 414 and read up on the alternator and how it works. From the sounds of things, you have a short between the red/green wire and the battery positive. This will cause the alternator to output like you are seeing. Granted, it is possible for this high voltage to just be a symptom of what the ECU thinks the battery needs though too. This is where reading the codes from the OBD port may shed some light on what is is going on. Get me that and then I will look into what the possibilities are.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 06:25 PM
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No Thermo, it's not oval, but the symbol look like the setting symbol on the smart phone with "!" in the middle, I try to attach the picture in the end of this reply.
You was right about the stuck throttle body, it doesn't respond to the gas pedal very well. I scan the code it show 7 codes, but three of them were duplicated, or may be on both sides:
1- P0182- Fuel temperature sensor A -2X
2-P0192- Fuel rail pressure sensor- 2X
3-P1229-Manufacture control fuel air meter- 2X
4-P1000- this probably clear itself once all that codes be corrected.
I can not attach the picture, every time I try to attach picture my laptop froz.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2021 | 12:29 PM
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Thanks Dell Gailey, can you either copy the whole page or show me where is the threat to read it. because I only can read half of the page. Thanks again.
 
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