2012 XF: Should it stay or Should it Go? (Problems over next 100K)
I have a 2012 Base XF with 110K miles on it. In general,has served me well, and thoroughly love the car.
However, it now required $5-6K of repairs (new front struts / isloators, replace coolant outlet pipe). Since the resale value at its current condition here in the USA is around $7K USD, I have to seriously consider the repairs and keeping for another 5-7 years, with continued expense vs. hitting the eject button.
Question for the forum, please: What other repairs or failures should I expect between 110K and 180K miles? Cost of these repairs?
Thanks in advance!
However, it now required $5-6K of repairs (new front struts / isloators, replace coolant outlet pipe). Since the resale value at its current condition here in the USA is around $7K USD, I have to seriously consider the repairs and keeping for another 5-7 years, with continued expense vs. hitting the eject button.
Question for the forum, please: What other repairs or failures should I expect between 110K and 180K miles? Cost of these repairs?
Thanks in advance!
I am asking myself a similar question. At ~105,000 it is time for struts all around, transmission mount and running down that elusive vacuum leak. My concern is not cost (more on that later), but am I ready to try something different? I have had this XF for over 4 years and still love it despite it's occasional quirks. Can't speak for you but I am leaning heavily to the keep it side.
On the cost issue, I think the repair estimate for the faults you listed are too high. If those are dealer estimates, find a good indie and watch the price go down. Original Bilstein shocks are in the $125 range each for your base model (I've been looking). Coolant pipe for the NA 5.0 L should also be in the $125 price range. So even with a mechanics markup on parts and labor at ~$165/hr it will be hard to hit that $5k-$6k total.
Just my 2 cents.
On the cost issue, I think the repair estimate for the faults you listed are too high. If those are dealer estimates, find a good indie and watch the price go down. Original Bilstein shocks are in the $125 range each for your base model (I've been looking). Coolant pipe for the NA 5.0 L should also be in the $125 price range. So even with a mechanics markup on parts and labor at ~$165/hr it will be hard to hit that $5k-$6k total.
Just my 2 cents.
I think the big one that a few people have posted about is the timing chain guides that can be risky by the time it reaches 100K miles. That's a big job. But yes, at 110K miles and starting about ten years old, whether its a Jaguar or a Honda, its going to start needing lots more repairs. Basically, everything that's made of plastic, rubber or vinyl is starting to deteriorate and it will soon be needing seals, gaskets, weatherstrip, bushings, hoses, tubes, reservoirs, you name it. Even stuff you never think about like the rubber/foam rings around the edges of the stereo speakers will start to go. Particularly North Carolina tends to be rather hot and sunny like here in Texas which accelerates the decay. Now mine is garaged both night and day and I'm at roughly half your mileage, but I never planned to keep mine past 85K. In fact I'm considering letting it go much sooner because I'm losing my downtown parking garage at work next Fall when my employer moves from our present Class A to a much cheaper building. I'm kind of thinking I might ought to get some kind of daily beater that I won't feel so bad about parking outside during the day. I worry the XF's leather dash will shrivel up like a raisin in the sun, not to mention headliner coming unglued, hail storms, etc.
Everybody who asks me about my Jaguars, I tell them don't even think about owning a Jaguar out of warranty unless you can DIY most of the repairs and service. I'm still holding onto my old XJ8 because I kind of fell in love with the traditional styling and still enjoy taking it to cruise nights in the late summer when its too hot for my non-a/c antiques. However, I retired the XJ8 from daily duties a few years back and got the newer Jag because it was reaching the age and mileage that things were starting to fail at inopportune moments and I didn't feel confident relying on it anymore. Even DIY, I've spent more on "preventative maintenance" parts and supplies to bring it back to some level of reliability than the XJ8 is worth and its been off the road for much the last three years because DIY takes a long time when you can only muster three or four hours every other weekend between mowing the jungle and DIY'ing everything else that breaks around "this old house". But if I didn't have the capability and patience; if I just had to pay mechanics for everything, then I'd have to have given it up long ago.
When I bought the XF in 2017, I briefly considered just buying a 2003 XJ8 (the last x308s) with lower mileage, but the plastics would still have been 15 years old and I'd already be back in the same boat. Thus I went 12 years newer. A 2015 XF (the last of the X250s) would only be six or seven years old now so that might be a more viable strategy for you than it was for me. You lose two cylinders, but everything else would be about the same. Basically like winding the clock back three years and rolling the odometer back by as much as you can find.
Everybody who asks me about my Jaguars, I tell them don't even think about owning a Jaguar out of warranty unless you can DIY most of the repairs and service. I'm still holding onto my old XJ8 because I kind of fell in love with the traditional styling and still enjoy taking it to cruise nights in the late summer when its too hot for my non-a/c antiques. However, I retired the XJ8 from daily duties a few years back and got the newer Jag because it was reaching the age and mileage that things were starting to fail at inopportune moments and I didn't feel confident relying on it anymore. Even DIY, I've spent more on "preventative maintenance" parts and supplies to bring it back to some level of reliability than the XJ8 is worth and its been off the road for much the last three years because DIY takes a long time when you can only muster three or four hours every other weekend between mowing the jungle and DIY'ing everything else that breaks around "this old house". But if I didn't have the capability and patience; if I just had to pay mechanics for everything, then I'd have to have given it up long ago.
When I bought the XF in 2017, I briefly considered just buying a 2003 XJ8 (the last x308s) with lower mileage, but the plastics would still have been 15 years old and I'd already be back in the same boat. Thus I went 12 years newer. A 2015 XF (the last of the X250s) would only be six or seven years old now so that might be a more viable strategy for you than it was for me. You lose two cylinders, but everything else would be about the same. Basically like winding the clock back three years and rolling the odometer back by as much as you can find.
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