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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Anybody on the list do there own oil changes on a 5 Liter NA engine?
Can you comment on filters, oil and procedure please.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Read the other thread next to yours:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...service-68943/
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Jaguar World Monthly magazine should be in your library if you are a DIY fan. Some issues back they described the full regular servicing of the 5.0 engine. You can do a regular drain and refill. You will need to buy a replacement drain plug as for the 4.2 as they are not designed to be reused. Even Audi sold me a complete drain plug and sealing washer last time I asked for the correct washer.

The oil filter is a cartridge in a can type. You need to be conscious of oil spillage when you swap out the old filter cartridge. Also, the re installation of the filter housing cap is important, there is an O ring seal you should replace each time you crack it open. This seal needs to be fitted correctly. Crikey, this reminds me of the 60's British cars before spin ons became standard. The replaceable cartridge is a step backwards but more environmentally sound.
 

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Jagular, thanks so much for the important information you posted. I will try to get this years 2011 issues. If by any chance you come across the exact one let me know. Reason I have go with DIY oil change is cause nearest Jag dealer is 5000 miles away. I have done the cartridge change on my Toyota Sequoia with no issues.

I am hoping you can do an oil change without setting of alarms.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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The electronic dipstick must automatically adjust to be useful so that should cause no issues. You can't have to reset it every time you add oil, for example. That's the only electronics involved. They still have unskilled workers do oil changes so it has to be kept fairly simple. The article I read was clear that the usual method of draining oil from below by removing a drain plug was acceptable and feasible.

There was a caution to add most of the oil, run the engine, then shut down, wait a while and check the level electronically before topping up. Without a dipstick it is a bit hair raising to DIY as overfilling is very bad for the engine. Worse than under filling actually ( obviously not below the oil low setting)
 

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 02:52 PM
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Use 7.5-8qts 5-20w of castrol slx.
The only issue you have is you cannot reset the service reminder<<<OOPS SORRY I FORGOT IM IN THE XF SECTION NOT THE NEW XJ, YOU CAN RESET YOURSELF, THE NEW XJ YOU CANNOT
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:06 PM
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Brutal you seiked me out man. Anyhow, thanks for the good news. Seems I will be able to keep my engine running smoothly. I just don't believe in 15000mile oil changes.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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You can believe in those extended changes. Modern engines and modern oil and filters can do the job. Changing more frequently than specified is a waste of money. All my cars run fully synthetic oil changed once per year or every 10,000 miles.

Three of my cars have run over 120,000 miles on this regimen with no oil related troubles. My Alfa is 20 years old, my SAAB is 15 years old and a car I sold was 20 years old.

You can trust the manufacturers on this issue. They have tested the engines relentlessly.
 

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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 06:55 PM
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I trust synth oil. My XJ8 ran a full year or around 5000 miles without trace
of oil deterioration. However at 5000 Miles I start getting nervous. Anybody on the forum think alike or differently. I know Jagular and I have different points of view regarding this and Tranny filled for life fluid.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:45 PM
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that is a "special" oil thats used in the new 5.0 for jaguar. And the car tracks useage, driving, temps etc and will turn on when change is needed. Ive seen them as soon as 8k. Im not a big fan of long run oil changes, But I dont do at 3k anymore either. I run 5k on mobil1 in the Nissan. But thats a high reving(7k) boosted engine that gets hard useage and I should have built the motor with gapless rings to greatly reduce the blowby. So the oil gets dirty quick. I dont go for FFL trans either. I think that consitant fluid changes of all fluids is just wise IF youre gonna keep your vehicles long term like I do. I havent sold a car in 20yrs and why I have 5 now.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rique
I trust synth oil. My XJ8 ran a full year or around 5000 miles without trace
of oil deterioration. However at 5000 Miles I start getting nervous. Anybody on the forum think alike or differently. I know Jagular and I have different points of view regarding this and Tranny filled for life fluid.

I am with you on this one Rique. I would change it sooner than 15,000 miles. 5,000 miles sounds good, i mean maybe you can stretch to 7,500, but that's about it.
I don't care what manufacturers say. I actually buy Mobil 1 (non synthetic) 5,000 mile extended for my LS and change it around 3,500 miles. Even then, still comes out dirty.

I can just imagine what an oil would look like after 15,000 miles useage in an engine - especially a high performance one, like found in Jaguars.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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Absolutely Exec....at 15000 miles I guess you don't drain it but you have to scoop it out of the oil pan like tar. The residue and dirt must clog oil passages and leave the innards all yellowish.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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BMW spec'd a two year unlimited mileage oil change for their mini.

Audi sold me a 24 month oil filter last time.

Synthetic oil has no confirmed limit on mileage. It is probably safe to use indefinitely and just change the filter.

BTW you cannot judge an oil's dirt load fom appearance. That black oil is still working just fine. Different oils change colour differently. Castrol goes black quickly. Mobil 1 stays honey colored almost forever.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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I noticed that on castrol. Why is it that it goes black?
If memory serves me right about 15 years ago I recall seeing a porche add where they stated that there first oil change was at 100.000Km or 62Kmiles. guess that did'nt work out very well.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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Hey Brutal, any chance you can post the drain oil procedure for the 5.0 rather than me hunting JagWorld Mag? thanks. Riq
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Did you read this thread at all???

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...service-68943/

You can't drain it you need to get a machine to suck it out.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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Blackcoog,

I think Rique is trying to do a regular drain and refill, because Jagular said it can be done, just can't reuse the drain plug.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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Sorry, I was under the impression there was no drain plug.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Really a drain oil proceedure. I hook up the machine to the tube in the oil fill opening, suck it all out through the tube. Change the filter and fill with fresh oil. If youre gonna diy. Remove the drain plug in the oil pan, change the filter and fill back up with oil. Reset the service reminder, OOOPS AND PUT THE DRAIN PLUG BACK IN
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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I wasn't going to mention this, but since it seems no one is in agreement on when the oil should be changed, I think I will. There is a product (preorder right now) that will hopefully help with deciding when the oil is bad or not. It is called Lubricheck and I'll definitely be trying it out. It's only $40, so seems worth it to me.

Seriously though, the drain plug cannot be reused? I know the crush washer shouldn't be, but the physical plug? That doesn't make sense to me...
 
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