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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 09:17 AM
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Our driving habits are pretty tough on cars. Losts of short distances and not many miles. My wife has a 2 mile commute so the engine rarely gets heated up. Now that we have two XFs it makes much more sense for me to at least do an intern oil change. With my TVR I change the oil annually, previous Jags I did at 8 months regardless of miles but usually between 4-6k depending on driving time.. I am thinking that doing every 8 months makes the most sense for us. I know I need to meet the 925 spec which shouldn't be hard but for those that do it yourself what extactor pump are you using and would you recommend it. Also would you also change the filter that often or just do it at 15k? If you say change it what filter are you using?

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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 06:21 PM
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As you know the factory recommended oil change interval is 12 months or 16k miles, whichever comes first.
Which is perfectly OK for cars that are driven a reasonable amount and/or plenty of longish highway miles.
But for a car that doesn't do much more than 2 miles in and 2 miles back each day I would change the oil every 6 months, and I would change the oil filter at the same time.
Yes the oil is a tad expensive but the filter is fairly cheap (and quick and easy to change).
Lots of after-market perfectly good oil filters out there, I usually use the Wix 57279 but Mahle and Mann are also good, see this Rock Auto page for example: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...il+filter,5340
Your 15 5.0 and 13 3.0 take the exact same oil filter and the same oil to boot (and 945-A is perfectly good, it's effectively the same as 925-A).
I have never yet used an extractor/vacuum pump but I bought a cheap eBay one a couple of months ago ready for the next oil change on the F-Type, and I tested it out the day I got it. None of the three supplied tubes fitted into or around the extraction tube properly, one fitted around but the seal was nowhere near tight enough (you need a good seal to get a vacuum before the pump works), but I MacGyvered a cap out of a 9 mm plastic plug and it then worked perfectly.
I recall seeing a thread or two around here (maybe on the F-Type sub-forum) where people have used and recommended a Mityvac oil extractor, apparently it works really well but it's about twice the price of the cheap Chinese eBay specials.
 

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Old Jun 30, 2018 | 09:02 PM
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Dreading the thought of removing all that plastic from under the car, I broke down and bought the Mityvac 7201. It extracts and dispenses with a switchable function. Plenty of volume at almost 9 liters. Cost me about $80 shipped. Worked like a champ and took maybe 15-20 minutes including the filter change. One of the hoses supplied fit the oil tube connector perfectly.

My commute is short too at 6 miles one-way, so I'll opt for about 8 months as well. Using a Mahle filter and changing it every time. Cheap insurance.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 12:26 AM
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Reading the reviews and having gotten tired of mitty vac brake bleeder failing (I get horrible freight ones to last longer) I am a little concerned about those. How many times have you used yours?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 10:02 AM
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I recently bought an OEMTOOLS 24397 Fluid Evacuator- 2.5 Gallons from Amazon. One of the supplied tubes fit snug on the XF's extractor tube and it worked quite good but I can't attest to durability as I've only used it once so far. I just changed mine at 12 months with about 6,500 miles and changed the filter too. I got a Mann filter off Rockauto as none of the local parts suppliers carry the correct filter.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TreVoRTasmin
Reading the reviews and having gotten tired of mitty vac brake bleeder failing (I get horrible freight ones to last longer) I am a little concerned about those. How many times have you used yours?
Mine only twice so far; however, I bought it on the recommendation of a friend who owns a custom build shop for cars. Plus they are highly rated online. I guess I will find out later how well it holds up.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2018 | 01:36 PM
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Despite the hassle I'd do it the old-fashioned way i.e. remove plastic shields and then drain as usual.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 02:41 AM
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I too prefer removing panels and draining through the drain plug at the oil pan. I do mine every twelve months. I only put on about 10k miles per year. And I do not live in a dusty environment nor do I drive long distances. My oil is pretty clean at each oil change.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 07:16 AM
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If you use the suction method, and I do, you still need to take off that panel at times to check for leaks. That panel can hide leaks that you want to know about.
 

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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
If you use the suction method, and I do, you still need to take off that panel at times to check for leaks. That panel can hide leaks thst you want to know about.
Naw, I live in the land of winter salt. The more oil leaks the better.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jag#4
Mine only twice so far; however, I bought it on the recommendation of a friend who owns a custom build shop for cars. Plus they are highly rated online. I guess I will find out later how well it holds up.
Yeahreviews for a new one is strong, it is the people who go to use it a year later and the pump seals are toast (one of the reviews even said mity vac doesn't have rebuild kits either). I had my first mityvac brake bleeder for 10 plus years and used it after every race on one car without issue, then it went and I bought another and another both of which failed within a year. Hate spending money and only getting a couple changes out of it.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2018 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TreVoRTasmin
Yeahreviews for a new one is strong, it is the people who go to use it a year later and the pump seals are toast (one of the reviews even said mity vac doesn't have rebuild kits either). I had my first mityvac brake bleeder for 10 plus years and used it after every race on one car without issue, then it went and I bought another and another both of which failed within a year. Hate spending money and only getting a couple changes out of it.
I have had mines for a little over a year now. In that time I have done 5 oil changes No issue so far.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2018 | 12:22 AM
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My oil change stuff, and if your doing mostly short trips during the work week, on the days off take a long (Min 20 miles one way) drive twice a month.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-stuff-169648/
 

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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 03:28 AM
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A quick update about the cheap Chinese eBay special oil extraction pump, see post #2.
Extract/quote: "I have never yet used an extractor/vacuum pump but I bought a cheap eBay one a couple of months ago ready for the next oil change on the F-Type, and I tested it out the day I got it. None of the three supplied tubes fitted into or around the extraction tube properly, one fitted around but the seal was nowhere near tight enough (you need a good seal to get a vacuum before the pump works), but I MacGyvered a cap out of a 9 mm plastic plug and it then worked perfectly."
Well I decided to change the oil and filter today, being 6 months to the day since the last change. I had previously decided to start doing oil & filter changes every six months instead of every 12 months seeing as the warranty expired 6 months ago and 90% of my driving is very short trips (not good for the engine).
It turned out that the el cheapo extractor worked very well and takes exactly 7.25 litres filled to the brim!
I poured exactly 7.25 litres back in the car, checked the oil level readout and lo and behold it said "oil level OK" and was showing smack on the Max mark.
 

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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TreVoRTasmin
Naw, I live in the land of winter salt. The more oil leaks the better.
Yeah, as long as your chassis is rust free, who cares if your engine is seized? LOL
 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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Oil extractors have been used for years in marine applications. There are good ones available at your local marine store.I have a "West Marine" model that I use for my boat and it works great on the XF and the XE. Oil and filter change in minutes and no oily fingers.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2018 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lotusespritse
Yeah, as long as your chassis is rust free, who cares if your engine is seized? LOL
They do make those fill caps for that. Heck if it leaks enough you never need to change the oil
 
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 07:30 AM
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I don't know if I was using the "correct" oil or not, however I was initially using "dino oil" (name brands) in our '09 XF, for quite some time. I changed it religiously, every 2000 miles. I recently switched to syn oil, and due to the limited mileage the car sees, I'll be changing it annually.
 
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