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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Anyone had this issue?
2015 XF V8 S/C, took it in to the dealer for check engine light, turned out to be water pump. Warranty, no big deal.
However, the dealer said that I needed the rear pads and sensors replaced. Seems VERY early for a car with just 15K miles on the odometer.
They wanted $520 for it, then came down to $400, but I can do it for under $300.
Regardless of the cost, how many miles do you guys usually get out of your brakes?
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Very common if you have a heavy right foot. The traction control uses the rear brakes A LOT and keeping that much power from spinning the rear rubber takes A LOT of effort from the rear pads.

If you want more mileage from the back brakes, take it easier on the go-pedal.


And yes, save yourself some money, get to know your vehicle, and do the job yourself.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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Very common if you have a heavy right foot. The traction control uses the rear brakes A LOT and keeping that much power from spinning the rear rubber takes A LOT of effort from the rear pads.

If you want more mileage from the back brakes, take it easier on the go-pedal.


And yes, save yourself some money, get to know your vehicle, and do the job yourself.
Thank you. Makes sense now, yes
I am not exactly known to be an easy rider.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BostonKiller
Anyone had this issue?
2015 XF V8 S/C, took it in to the dealer for check engine light, turned out to be water pump. Warranty, no big deal.
However, the dealer said that I needed the rear pads and sensors replaced. Seems VERY early for a car with just 15K miles on the odometer.
They wanted $520 for it, then came down to $400, but I can do it for under $300.
Regardless of the cost, how many miles do you guys usually get out of your brakes?
You got 15,000 miles Daniel??

And here I thought you liked to drive your cars hard...

I usually get about 8,000 - 10,000 or so before the warning signal comes on the center of the dash. After that, I usually squeeze another 2,000 before replacement!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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For another perspective, I do not generally do a lot of standing start, heavy throttle acceleration, but I do like to drive hard once on the move, on my favourite backroads, and my brakes get a good workout in this manner. I replaced both front and rear at about 30k km, which is about 18,750 mi.

So no, it's not unusual!
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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As others said, not unusual. Heavy car, soft pads.

Are you going to replace with OEM? I went with aftermarket drilled/slotted rotors and ceramic pads. Much cheaper than the Jag ones and far less dusty
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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Our XF isn't supercharged, and my wife doesn't "lean on it" too much, but it does get driven in snow, so I'm sure the traction control engages the rear brakes a bit, during the winter.


Having said that, we got 22,000 miles out of the rear brakes, on our car. I wasn't aware of this "XF feature", so when the rears were shot, I assumed the fronts were equally worn. I was wrong. The fronts were barely worn.


I ordered 4 replacement rotors, and PowerStop ceramic pads, for front and rear, and replaced the whole deal. I'm happy with the PowerStop pads' braking performance, and LOVE their lack of dust. I bought the pads, and Beck Arnley rotors from Rock Auto Parts. $400 for the front and rear.....
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 06:16 PM
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It's not just the traction control (DSC) which effects the rear brakes, but the "anti-dive" built into the braking system which applies the rear brakes a fair bit more than otherwise.
Also, dealers are notorious for telling you your brakes pads and rotors need replacing when there is still plenty of life left in either or both. In general on the XF you should get through two sets of the stock rear pads before the rotors need replacing, but most dealers try to con you that the rotors must be renewed every time the pads are.
The wear sensor is meant to trigger when that pad (inner RHR) reaches 4 mm thickness remaining, so still plenty of meat left on it, but of course that doesn't tell you about the state of the other three pads.
Best bet is to whip off at least one rear wheel and and have a look/measure yourself.
Check both inner and outer pads (you need to get right under to check the inner pad), and measure the rotor thickness with a vernier. For the 326 mm diameter rear rotors (on all XFs except the SC & XFR) the minimum thickness is 18 mm (new 20 mm), for the SC and XFR with the 376 mm rear rotors it's 24 mm minimum and 26 mm new.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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The stoptech ceramics on my rear axle are done after about 60k km (roughly 40k miles) and I'm pretty light on the accelerator. Front pads are about 80% done. I was hoping to get a bit more out of the rears but seeing everyone else's figures I guess I did ok.
 
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