Greetings. I have a 2013 XJ Portfolio without massage seats. I’ve purchased two front seats from a junked 2014 XJ with massage seats. The seats have been installed in my vehicle with the seat modules from the donor vehicle. All of the manual seat controls work as expected i.e. seat movements forward and back, side bolsters, memory function, headrest, heat and cool etc.

I am having trouble getting my vehicle to recognize the newly installed massage seats. I cannot get the massage option to be displayed on the nav screen. I’ve successfully modified the CCF file parameter “front seat massage” to fitted. No massage option. I suspect that I have to download the software files for the seat modules from the donor vehicle. I have the software files for the driver and passenger seat. However, I cannot get my vehicle to accept the .vbf files to configure the seat modules. I’ve tried renaming the new software files with same file names as the original files. No success. This results in a file error “Error code A1E = request out of range error”. See picture below. I’ve tried modifying the contents of the vbf files. That resulted in a checksum error during the download. SDD seems to detect any files that are not associated with originally fitted modules. Does anyone know of any other creative methods to download software files for modules that aren’t originally fitted to a vehicle? Any other ideas on getting that massage option to display on the nav screen? Thanks.

 

This is an incredible upgrade attempt, but I have no clue how to help.

 

I have tried several attempts and multiple methods to get the vehicle to accept the software for the newly installed seat modules. In all attempts, I get the “request out of range error”. I think that this is due to the hardware and software numbers being newer than the vehicle. See seat module pictures below. I suspect that going back in hardware/software would work, but going forward to newer hardware/software prompts the download error. This is only a theory. It’s probably possible to go forward with newer hardware with some software file manipulation, but I haven’t figured it out.

Donor vehicle driver seat module, 2014 XJ.

Originally fitted driver seat module, 2013 XJ.


From looking at the seat module hardware part numbers from 2013 XJ’s with massage seats, they are a match to my original XJ seat modules without massage seats. This prompts me to believe that my problem is the CCF file parameters and not particularly the seat module software. I need to identify the correct CCF file parameters to enable the massage options on my touch screen.

Does anyone have a CCF file for a 2013 XJ with massage seats? I’d like to copy those CCF settings to see if I can enable the massage seat options.

 

Wouldn't it be easier finding some uses seats with that feature ..then programming it?

 

You didn't read the initial post? He did get used seats with the massage feature. However, the correct software configuration/files have to be in his vehicle computer, to be able to use the feature. If it was an option for that car, you can add nearly any hardware you want to your vehicle, but the software has to be configured for it to work/access the function.

 

Hence why I said programming it afterwards. I hear others editing their ecu to add features... so why not the seats.

 

I’m still working to figure this out. From my previous post above, I was thinking that maybe there were additional CCF modifications that I needed to make. I’m not so sure if that is the case anymore.

I now think that it is the version touchscreen that I have. I believe that it is not capable of showing the massage seat option. I’ve seen certain members on the forum update from the slower 2010/2011 touchscreens to the faster 2012/2013 models. Once updated, they lost certain features on their touchscreens that they previously had. One of them being the massage option. The option is no longer displayed. There’s an entire thread on this. https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...isplay-162946/

As such, I purchased 2 used touchscreens, models CW93-10E889-CB (2012) and DW93-10E889-AD (2013). I think one of these will work. This is just a theory, however it’s worth a try. The thread does in fact confirm that certain options will NOT be displayed on the touchscreen despite the vehicle’s CCF configuration.

The screens should be here later this week. I’ll provide an update whether success or failure. If this does work, this would be a relatively simple and easy upgrade for those without massage seats.

 

Do any of the XJ's have massaging on the seat bottoms, or just the seat backs?

 

Any update on this? This is basically what I want to do for the 2013 Luxury without massaging or cooled seats.

 

Greetings,

I have not been able to figure this out. I kinda given up on it. I have tried purchasing various models of infotainment screens; no success. If I had a CCF file of a vehicle that has massaging seats, I could modify my vehicle’s file to match it. I just don’t know what bits to modify in order to make that massage button display on the screen. I may take another stab at it, but I’ve given up on it for the time being.

 

I really hope you figure this out as I plan to do the same for my vehicle. It also lacked the massage feature unfortunately. Anyway I posted this to Reddit and here’s what someone replied. Hope this help somehow.

 

Hey brother, thank you! This is the most helpful thing that I’ve received. I’ll get out in the garage later today and give these parameters a try. I’ll let you know how it goes. I hope it works.

 

I’m having difficulty finding a password to get into engineering mode at the moment. I was using the website Vehcom.com to get a seed code. I’ve used this site for years. For some reason, my account is now limited. I have to find another way to get a seed code. Anyone know of another site that generates seed code passwords?

 

Is there a way to get the name of those 2 CCF parameters from NickOldJaguar? What name are they under in the list of “ descriptions”?
The CCF descriptions that are pertaining to seats that I can see are:
Heated Seats
Cloth/leather seats
Seats
Memory Seat Movement
Front Seat Massage Movement
Rear Seat Massage Movement
Rear heated seats
Rear climatic Seat (heated and cooled)
Driver’s seat type
passenger seat type
climatic seat market
Number of climatic system zones
Seat track position sensor fitment
Heated rear seat
seat heat calibration
heated front seats
front seat ventilation
seat track sensors
seats

What is the description name of those 2 parameters that need to be changed?

 

no problem brother! I Will ask your question to nick old jaguar and see if I can get a reply. If it all eventually works it will be well worth the struggle! I’ll be in touch as soon as I can.

 

hello so I managed to get his response for your question. This is what he said,

“Sorry, not using sdd anymore, so can't tell you how these called in sdd and about a passwords.
The first parameter - you've already modified it. The EUCD0013 one is not even listed in SDD's xml files (however is present in a ccf itself) so you need either to decrtypt/modify/encrypt back the .exml files of sdd or use some other ccf editor to modify a CCF.vbf file itself and then load it with sdd.”

 

hello ABrice. Do you hopefully have any updates on the massage seats? I figured you probably are at another dead end. Appreciate it!

 

I’m gonna get after this on Saturday morning. I have been thinking about it. From what I can see, all of the 2013 XJ’s with the 20-way power seat, all have the same driver and passenger seat modules. The software numbers and part numbers are the same as they are listed on the seat modules. As such, I think the answer is in the CCF file modification. I just need to locate the parameter that tells the vehicle that it now has massage seats. Easier said than done though. I’m not sure which parameter needs to be modified, but I’m gonna look for the adjustment that mirrors the solution that the gentlemen from Reddit provided. I vaguely remember seeing similar options. I’ll let you know how it goes.

 

i appreciate the update. this certainly doesn’t seem simple, so best of luck to you. And if you need something from that gentlemen from Reddit. Feel free to ask and I can convey your questions. Cheers!

 

I didn’t get an attempt at modifying the CFF file. You can’t make modifications to the CCF with modules that aren’t originally fitted to the vehicle on the car. The CFF options will be grayed out, and not changeable. I spent all yesterday removing modules in effort to avoid SDD detecting them. I have replaced a lot of components on my vehicle. The infotainment screen, added rear seat entertainment screens, entertainment module, headlights, seats, rear screen shades, overhead consoles, gear shift, seat switches, newer satellite radio module etc. It appears that SDD keeps detecting a component. After I put my car back together, I thought about the internal massage bladders in the seats that I added. I never actually disconnected the seats from the seat modules. It’s possible that SDD is detecting them.

I’m gonna take a knee on this for now. I’m going to buy another diagnostic tool that will hopefully allow me to modify the car’s configuration file despite having modules that are not associated with my car’s vin.