Hi All,

Just found out that my Jaguar XJL 1st registered June 2015 is a 2010MY model, what does this mean, is it a 5 yr old car that has been in storage and then registered June 2015 when I bought it?

 

Your conclusion appears to be correct. However, I can't be sure without knowing where you are, when you bought it, and if you bought it from an authorized Jaguar dealer, another dealer, or private seller. How many miles were on it when you bought it, and how many miles are on it now?

Do you have the Certificate of Title? Is it a "clean" title or a "salvage" or "reissued" title? That should include the date of manufacture. Do you have the VIN? Do a "VIN Lookup" and that will tell you the date of manufacture and details of equipment, etc.

Your country and city are not in your Personal Profile or your signature. You need to add that information to enable Forum members to answer your questions.

 

Could be an import when it was 5 yrs old. Unlikely it sat idle for 5 years
Are you in USA? Do you have Carfax?

 

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the reply, I bought the car through a Jaguar main dealer. The car was 4 month old when I got it, it was previously owned and registered by the Jaguar dealer as a demonstrator vehicle. It had just 4000 miles on the clock when I took ownership of the car.

I am based in Wrexham, North Wales United Kingdom, I will update my personal details to show this.

Where do I stand if this is a 5 yr old car that appears to be sold as a new 2015 year m model?

 

As far as I can see it is not an import and no I do not have Carfax. I am based in The UK, North Wales.

 

If the dealer represented the car to you as being a 2015 model and, in fact, it is a 2010, then you should have some sort of legal recourse; especially if you paid a 2015 price! I know nothing about the legal aspects of such a thing happening but it certainly has to be illegal! Good luck!

Dwayne

 

Although laws vary in different jurisdictions, when it comes to contracts the terms of the document usually control. So, the first thing I suggest you do is read the paperwork that you signed and see what it says about the car and the warranty. I suspect that since it was previously titled as owned by the dealership, that it is now out of the original factory warranty.

In the USA, Jaguar main dealers can offer a Certified Pre-Owned warranty that is backed by Jaguar on used Jaguars that pass certain requirements. The CPO warranty is for 7 years or 100,000 miles from the date the vehicle was first placed in service, whichever comes first. I don't know if a similar plan exists in the UK.

What recourse do you have?

If you believe that the salesperson misrepresented that XJ to you, which fraudulently induced you to buy it, then you might have a case to void that contract from the outset and get your money back. You would have to consult with a local lawyer to know if that's the law where you are.

Another possibility is to discuss your concerns with the owner of that Jaguar dealer - not the sales manager or salesperson - and put the ball in their court. Ask them what they propose to do to make this right with you. Don't be threatening, but do make the owner realize that you're serious and will pursue your legal remedies and report your experience online and to the press. At a minimum, I would want the equivalent of the Jaguar new car warranty for a 2015 model.

Hopefully, you'll be able to work this out on a mutually acceptable basis with that dealer. Be sure to get it in writing, and that it binds any future owners of that dealer.

Good luck!

 

Andy, if you are sure about the build date being 2010 (you can check here) then as you are in the UK there are two ways this could have happened:

1) The vehicle was originally supplied overseas and imported back into the UK which would be its first registration date. That's not that uncommon with big executive cars like Jaguars and Mercedes - UK civil servants and military stationed overseas buy their vehicles UK spec but supplied where they are based at a huge discount over UK retail prices. Then when they replace their vehicle, or move back to the UK, the vehicles are imported and then sold on to pass the VAT onto the new owner.

2) The vehicle was supplied in the UK but was unsold and not registered. It is unusual, but technically could happen. It may have been a demonstrator vehicle running on trade plates for all that time, so not technically registered under its own title (with 4000 miles it had obviously been on the road).

From your reply no 4 it appears that scenario 2 was most likely.

If your XJ was sold to you as first registered in June 2015, and no claim was made that it was a new car (you seem aware it was a demonstrator for a while) then you may not have any recourse. You would need to carefully check what information you were supplied at the time of purchase. That said however, as it is now more than 3 years since you bought it it is unlikely you will get any financial recourse even if it was misrepresented at sale as you have had 3 years of enjoyment and depreciation which the courts would need to consider. Likely your only recourse would be if something failed on the vehicle due to age, or if it had not been serviced at the correct intervals because you were told the clock started later; both being hard to prove.

UK factory warranties are only 3 years, so it would have been out of warranty when sold if the build date is correct. If you believe it was misrepresented, and you intend to keep it, you could try pushing the selling dealer for a service pack equal to the years between build and first registration, and/or an aftermarket warranty contribution. It depends how cooperative they are. Is the reason you have found this out now because you are intending to part exchange it after 3 years?