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I know this is a relatively old thread, but I couldn't find anything newer for X351 oil changes.
2016 XJL 3.0L AWD. I can't find the correct oil filter wrench.
I bought a style 908, 90.2mm 15 flutes, and it is too big. Must be for the 5.0L?
Do I need a 907, 88.5mm 15 flutes? I have searched the web and forum, but nothing is clearly identified.
I prefer the solid cast or machined version. The sheet metal tools don't seem to hold their shape.
My other car is a Lexus RX450h, and a solid oil filter wrench is absolutely required.
I know this is a relatively old thread, but I couldn't find anything newer for X351 oil changes.
2016 XJL 3.0L AWD. I can't find the correct oil filter wrench.
I bought a style 908, 90.2mm 15 flutes, and it is too big. Must be for the 5.0L?
Do I need a 907, 88.5mm 15 flutes? I have searched the web and forum, but nothing is clearly identified.
I prefer the solid cast or machined version. The sheet metal tools don't seem to hold their shape.
My other car is a Lexus RX450h, and a solid oil filter wrench is absolutely required.
Yep, you want style 907, I have one and it works perfectly on my 3.0 V6 F-Type.
Also the oil filter cannister is identical on all AJ126 (3 litre V6) and AJ133 (5 litre V8) engines so all take a 907.
I think OP has already done his oil change, but if anyone is interested these are the videos I found on Youtube which I'm planning on following to do my oil change.
Artie, I have an electric pump that I connect right to the fuse box there in the engine bay and pump the oil straight to a 5 gallon gas can for recycle. If this is your first time doing it, a good tidbit of info to keep in mind is that you want the oil warm. What I mean by this is you will need to start the car, get the engine up to temp, then park the car and let it sit for say 20 minutes with hte hood open. You get it too hot, it will gas out fairly easy and it makes pumping it out hard. If you have it too cold, getting the oil to flow is a PITA and takes a long time to get all the oil out. Atleast that is what I am seeing with my electric pump.
FCP Euro has this amazing deal and it seems the F-Type guys are using it.
LIFETIME GUARANTEE on OIL.
I called the company even after doing all the reading to verify as I just couldn't believe this amazing deal lol.
You have to buy the replacement items first and will then get reimbursed once they receive it back (you cover shipping back to them obviously). https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/jag...hle-lm20410kt2
This Mobil 1 Extended Performance looks to be the right one to use, but I'm not 100% sure. It's 0W-20 and according to their website "Meets or exceeds Ford WSS-M2C925-A.
I don't see anything anywhere, on the bottle itself or on the Mobil 1 website, that says it meets or exceeds WSS-M2C925-A.
It does meet many other Ford specs, but not the 925-A, that I can find.
And I've considered the LiquiMoly, since Rock Auto offers it at a good price, but it doesn't appear to meet or exceed our spec either.
The same basic story - if you're okay with using a non-spec alternative, either are available. Whether or not it's good enough for you & your car is up to you, the owner.
But for those that only want to use the spec called for, there is no alternative.
For a Jaguar owner that considers a Jaguar to be worthy of a little extra cost of maintenance, the difference isn't often enough or high enough to compromise. An extra $50 difference more or less every 6 or 12 months? These are the best Jaguar XJs ever made! And at least for now, the last of their kind.
On the other hand, I do prefer the convenience of doing it myself, if only I could find the spec'd Castrol Edge Professional oil for a reasonable price to compete with the dealership oil change special price.
Each owners own choice.
Last edited by 12jagmark; May 28, 2021 at 12:56 PM.
Artie, I have an electric pump that I connect right to the fuse box there in the engine bay and pump the oil straight to a 5 gallon gas can for recycle. If this is your first time doing it, a good tidbit of info to keep in mind is that you want the oil warm. What I mean by this is you will need to start the car, get the engine up to temp, then park the car and let it sit for say 20 minutes with hte hood open. You get it too hot, it will gas out fairly easy and it makes pumping it out hard. If you have it too cold, getting the oil to flow is a PITA and takes a long time to get all the oil out. Atleast that is what I am seeing with my electric pump.
+1 on Liqui-Moly. Before they came out with "LR" specific version, the "Special-Tec" met the 925 spec. I bought 4 jugs at the time, and still have one left. Funny that Mobil 1 DID meet the spec in non-US markets (attached):
I really do not see that the Castrol OE branded is any sort of "magic". It is just a good quality full synthetic oil that meets specs. Some people are afraid to NOT use it out of fear that it will VOID their warranty. No fear of that, as the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act precludes that from happening. If a dealer doesn't know it, JLR corporate does.
That act allows the manufacturer to deny warranty coverage if they can claim that use of a non-oem part caused the failure. If you used an oil that does not meet JLR specs, and the engine failed, they would have a good case to deny coverage. For the cost difference, while in warranty, you could certainly change the oil yourself - but you should use one that meets the JLR spec.
This is a good argument for using the Liqui Moly.
BTW, some people are complaining about the difficulty of getting a tube all the way down the engine pick up tube. The answer is, don't. I used a short piece of rubber vacuum tubing to couple the tube on my pump, to the tube on the engine.
The ultimate irony is that the Jaguar "recommended" oil is no longer made, and per Castrol's letter copied here states their replacement (5122 approved) is " backward compatible" with AJ133 engines. Motul 5122 lists the 925a/b spec, and seems to be the only oil that does. I winder how a dealer could justify selling you an oil what DOESN'T meet specs, when there are others that DO.
The ultimate irony is that the Jaguar "recommended" oil is no longer made, and per Castrol's letter copied here states their replacement (5122 approved) is " backward compatible" with AJ133 engines. Motul 5122 lists the 925a/b spec, and seems to be the only oil that does. I winder how a dealer could justify selling you an oil what DOESN'T meet specs, when there are others that DO.
Thanks for posting that letter. The way I read it, it looks like it's not making the 5w20 anymore, but continuing the 0W20, which is what JLR switched the (previously) prescribed 5w20 to long ago (as I understood it for the last couple of years).
All listed in the letter are still the Castrol Edge Professional though, which is tough but not completely impossible to get on the open market.
I did see the LiquiMoly website listed the Special Tec LR 5w20 does meet the a few specs such as Jaguar / Land Rover STJLR.03.5004 and WSS-M2C-925B, but is "recommended" for vehicles that spec WSS-M2C-925-A
But I've been opting for 0W20 as the dealerships use.
LiquiMoly does currently appear to offer Top Tech 6300 0W20 spec'd for Jaguar / Land Rover STJLR.51.5122. Maybe that was called Special Tec LR 0W20 before?
Last edited by 12jagmark; May 30, 2021 at 02:21 PM.
I was more looking at the "Castrol EDGE 0W-20 E or Castrol EDGE 0W-20 EC are also backward compatible to any engine that required Castrol EDGE Professional OE 5W-20 and are available in retail stores" sentence. Since I have always been the "Liqui-Moly" kind of guy, I never paid attention to the Castrol product line, but are the Castro Edge 0W-20 E and EC varieties just the "over the counter" retail versions?
Thanks Enosgl as Castrol EDGE Professional OE is no where to be found!
I still have 8 quarts of OE to use as I did find it once some time back.
Still not easy to find the EDGE Professional EC or C either.
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Castrol 0w20 5122 is what my JLR dealership uses, in bulk. We use it on ALL engines that need 20w, both the 5 and the 0. These are JLR warranty backed oil changes. Older 5w30, we still have bottles for that too.
IF it meets 5122 spec, it is good for your Jag, no other discussion. If not, your choice.
If I did not work at a shop, I would get the LM 5122 as that is the most spec oil you can get OTC that I know of. IF I was to not care about spec, I would get Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0w20 - phenomenal oil.
I wish I could find that Castrol 0w-20 5122? It's just not around?
I did find Mobil 1 ESP X2 0w-20 and it is labeled with Jaguar STJLR.51.5122
I can find this on EBay and it's between $55 and $75 for 6 quarts.
So at least not too expensive. Mobil 1 ESP X2
Be sure it's marked with product #125386.
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Last edited by clubairth1; Jun 1, 2021 at 11:20 AM.
Yeah the Castrol 5122 oil is basically dealer only, unfortunately. We have a few drums in the shop at any one point...wish one would fall off the back of the truck, so to speak! Can't get anywhere else. Pay for the dealer oil change, you get the factory fill oil.
That Mobil 1 with "5122" is news to me, if it meets spec then great, an OTC choice to add to the small list!
