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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 11:27 PM
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Anyone had to replace the rear tie rod dust covers? If so what are the dimensions or even better, a link to suitable ones would be great. The ones in question fit between #8 and #9 in the attached. Thanks!

 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 01:40 AM
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@fossberry see my post here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...r-boot-265138/

heres rthe link i was given in that thread: https://www.balljointboots.co.uk/index.html

See my thread for details but when you click the more info icon under the item it gives you a rundown of vehicle fitments.
The Boots you need for the X351 are boot #4 and boot #2 these two sizes cover off the X351 front and rear suspension control arms, stabilising links etc.

My order was cancelled by the seller if you read the thread, so i cannot speak as to fitment but stiull have not found a supplier that makes sizes close to the ones on this site linked above if indeed these are the correct size boots.

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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 02:14 AM
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You might try this site Polyboots.com. The company specializes in ball joint and tie rod end boots. I haven't searched the site myself, I found it and saved it to search later. Hope you find what you need.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rivguy
You might try this site Polyboots.com. The company specializes in ball joint and tie rod end boots. I haven't searched the site myself, I found it and saved it to search later. Hope you find what you need.

Been there brother, there is one boot simmilar in size

12mm x 29mm x 24mm so its a very tight fit but the length, may be a bit short, that is the only one that comes close.
https://polyboots.com/search-by-size...r=ASC/limit=15



 
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 06:35 AM
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Are you sure that a boot is used between #8 and #9??
That diagram looks like it's showing the rear track rod end? I think that bushing may need replacing?




So I think you need to replace the entire rod?

Interesting background on this part too. It was first used in the Lincoln LS/S Type rear suspension way back in 1999. It originally started out as a passive rear steer setup as the rod initially had a flex joint where the adjusting mechanism is. That proved to be an idea that did not work all that well and very shortly after release of those two cars Jaguar/Ford went back to a solid tie rod/track rod set up.

But at least they did built in some way to adjust the rear toe in/out.
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Old Dec 3, 2022 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
.......Interesting background on this part too. It was first used in the Lincoln LS/S Type rear suspension way back in 1999. It originally started out as a passive rear steer setup as the rod initially had a flex joint where the adjusting mechanism is. That proved to be an idea that did not work all that well and very shortly after release of those two cars Jaguar/Ford went back to a solid tie rod/track rod set up.

But at least they did built in some way to adjust the rear toe in/out.
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Yes, but it was too bad that they didn't build in some way to adjust the rear camber on that chassis. We had a 2000 LS, and the camber difference between the left and right wheels was 0.40*.

 
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Old Dec 4, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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Yes they did leave that off. Don't know if there are aftermarket eccentric bushings or not.
I also came from the LS to Jaguar and any lowered car fought with uneven tire wear.
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Yes they did leave that off. Don't know if there are aftermarket eccentric bushings or not.
I also came from the LS to Jaguar and any lowered car fought with uneven tire wear.
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Driving down "memory lane"...........

I was one of the original members of the Lincoln LS Owners Club (LLSOC), and we discussed the rear camber situation quite a bit, as many of us thought about installing the Eibach springs in our cars. We, of course, hesitated, due to the potential excess negative camber issues that could have come from it. It was rumored, based on some research that I did, that the Mustang SVO of that era shared some of the rear suspension components with the LS/S-Type. The one thing that looked hopeful, was that the Mustang had an eccentric bushing locating one of the a-arms (I forget, now, if it was the upper or lower), and this was used specifically to allow camber adjustment. Sadly, we never found out if this bushing would have fit the LS arms.

I could be wrong, but I think that the DEW98 platform, in a slightly updated form, became the basis for the XE/XF, and possibly the current F-Pace. We have an F-Pace in our family fleet, and I'd LOVE to install a set of lowering springs, but don't want to deal with camber issues, so for now, I'll just have to deal with the "off road truck" look.........
 
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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Yes I am also an original LLSOC member and was very interested in the super charged LS QuickLS built years ago and then wrecked it later on. I think the paid membership model kind of fell apart once the cars moved on to used owners and not the original new purchasers.

Yes and what's left of the DEW98 platform is also under the current Mustang. But only a small part. The XF for sure but I am not sure how much further it extends as other changes are made to that platform.
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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i bailed on the tie rod boot renewal for this part specifically, by the time i paid for the boots and postage, plus time pfaffing replacing the boots and grease etc and not considering the fitted parts wear, i opted for just paying $95AUD a side for the original Jag part from a bay seller here in Australia, i hunted around on the net but other sources around the world made it non economical due to postage cost but the OEM Lemforder part is the next best, then the rest of the OE parts all the way down to the cheapest Chinese parts..

Postage is the killer here in Australia, i just paid 100GBP (thats equivalent to over 200AUD) to have a sunroof blind casting kit posted from the UK, but even that was cheaper than a freight forwarding company quote, it is what it is i guess, we are not driving ford falcons, sometimes you just gotta suck it up.

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