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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Does anyone have a solution to minimizing brake dust on my ‘08 XJ8? My silver wheels look black all the time
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 09:58 AM
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usually guys go with ceramic pads. I have them, cleaned my wheels 3 times this driving season.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 01:34 PM
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But do ceramic pads have the same braking feel and performance as dusty pads?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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But do ceramic pads have the same braking feel and performance as dusty pads?
In my opinion, NO, but others feel differently.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 06:43 PM
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In my opinion, NO, but others feel differently.
I was hesitant to respond because this comes up in near every brake pad discussion. It all comes down to your driving habits.

Organic brakes are going to feel "grippier" and statistically you may have shorter braking distances, but real world driving will foster as many opinions as there are elbows in the world.

I prefer less dust to more grip:-) but that's just me.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 06:48 PM
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Pads are relatively inexpensive and easy to change out if you DIY so they're cheap enough IMO to buy and try. You can always go back.

The only other tip I can offer is to have your wheels powder coated a high gloss. It won't change how dirty they get but make them easier to clean.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 08:39 PM
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Use Akebono pads for dust control - unless you are racing your car, they will be just fine. That is what I use in my XJR.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lagonia
Use Akebono pads for dust control - unless you are racing your car, they will be just fine. That is what I use in my XJR.
I use them too. Had them on my Super V8 and have them on my XK.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lagonia
Use Akebono pads for dust control - unless you are racing your car, they will be just fine. That is what I use in my XJR.
Fully agree here
 
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 03:55 AM
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I have to say (even though it may be PC incorrect) IMO there are some very nice legs on display in this forum!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by abonano
Fully agree here
I too use Akebono ceramic pads for years in all my cars. No problems and they stop without any compromises.
BTW... The lazy mans way to keep your rims always clean with little to no effort is the use an inexpensive hi pressure water washer followed up with a battery powered leaf air blower for drying. The high pressure water gets into all the little nooks and crannies especially the brake calipers. No need for soaps or brushes. I do it at least 2x a week.
 

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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
I was hesitant to respond because this comes up in near every brake pad discussion. It all comes down to your driving habits.

Organic brakes are going to feel "grippier" and statistically you may have shorter braking distances, but real world driving will foster as many opinions as there are elbows in the world.

I prefer less dust to more grip:-) but that's just me.
I would love less dust but I need every last bit of grip and power I can get with all the horrible drivers surrounding me in LA.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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Pads have DOT codes which indicate coefficient of friction and fade. The Akebono pads rate highly. Seems to bear out in real life.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan R
Pads have DOT codes which indicate coefficient of friction and fade. The Akebono pads rate highly. Seems to bear out in real life.
Simi Metallics resist brake fad from hi temp better than ceramics. Unless your on the track, going down hills or towing ceramics will perform as well.
Pad COF is dependent upon properly surfaced rotors. Popping in pads without rotor replacement or turning most likely will not bring out the min stopping distances whatever the COF is. If anyone desires max brake performance new pads and rotors need to be replaced often to maintain the best surface to surface contact. This also includes brake fluid and brake hoses.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2017 | 10:57 PM
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I have used Akebono's for years. My wifes RR wheels seem to never have much dust with Akebono's, and she cooks brakes. All my previous Jags didn't either. I have them on the rear of my SV8, but cannot find a listing for the front (2006 SV8 with teves). Ceramics do need to get a little hotter to perform great IMO. But the huge brakes on a X350 should even it out, and with way less dust.
Anyone have a good P/N for the 2006 SV8 front pads (Akebono)
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Maine
I have used Akebono's for years. My wifes RR wheels seem to never have much dust with Akebono's, and she cooks brakes. All my previous Jags didn't either. I have them on the rear of my SV8, but cannot find a listing for the front (2006 SV8 with teves). Ceramics do need to get a little hotter to perform great IMO. But the huge brakes on a X350 should even it out, and with way less dust.
Anyone have a good P/N for the 2006 SV8 front pads (Akebono)
Teves? What is that Mark? Don't you have the Brembo Brakes, same as the 05? I would do a quick caliper search on your model in the EPC, then the same with the 05. If the caliper's the same, EUR938 is the right part me thinks.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
Teves? What is that Mark? Don't you have the Brembo Brakes, same as the 05? I would do a quick caliper search on your model in the EPC, then the same with the 05. If the caliper's the same, EUR938 is the right part me thinks.
The X350~X358 series uses Teves (ATE) MK25 systems. Brembo brake calipers and disks were an upgrade on R models, however, the electronics and ABS/DSC is still ATE.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 04:21 PM
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In the EU, brake pads must meet ECE R90 (E mark). This stipulates that after market brake pads must be within 15% of OEM pads. I believe that Akebono pads do this.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 12:05 AM
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No. In 2006 the SV8 was given a change from the brembo's to Teves made. On top of that, the SV8's received larger front brakes.
OEM Jaguar pads:
W/Supercharger C2Z14096
W/O Supercharger C2C39929
They are different than 2005 and prior. They also changed the rear caliper system to a much simpler system. Can't find a cross ref to C2Z14096 for Akebono from a vender I trust. Most of them list the wrong brembo pad.
Sorry to highjack
Any help
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark in Maine
No. In 2006 the SV8 was given a change from the brembo's to Teves made. On top of that, the SV8's received larger front brakes.
OEM Jaguar pads:
W/Supercharger C2Z14096
W/O Supercharger C2C39929
They are different than 2005 and prior. They also changed the rear caliper system to a much simpler system. Can't find a cross ref to C2Z14096 for Akebono from a vender I trust. Most of them list the wrong brembo pad.
Sorry to highjack
Any help
OK I googled C2Z14096 cross reference which got me a list. I selected this:

https://www.ebay.com/b/Bosch-Front-C...59/bn_33765279

Then I selected this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Disc-Brake-...YAAOSwVlVZ-FwP

I entered your year make and model. Says it fits.
 
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