Handling Problems
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Sounds to me like Jaguar need to sack all their staff and dealers in France and recruit a new lot. I don't think I have ever read of such arrogant, conceited, attitudes in an organisation supposedly serving their customers. I have to say, though, that customer service does not seem to be a strong point of French organisations. Renault cars used to be very popular in the UK, but are slowly disappearing from sight, due, I suspect to poor service to their customers. Nowadays I look at restaurant wine lists and there are no French wines on them at all !!
What is going on in France ?
What is going on in France ?
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Sounds like service in France is much different than the US. When my dealer has to order a part they normally have it the next day; and they give me a loaner vehicle while I wait. My car is beyond the factory warranty and I purchased a warranty from another insurance company. They pay the dealer directly when a repair is made; again, no waiting.
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Sounds to me like Jaguar need to sack all their staff and dealers in France and recruit a new lot. I don't think I have ever read of such arrogant, conceited, attitudes in an organisation supposedly serving their customers. I have to say, though, that customer service does not seem to be a strong point of French organisations. Renault cars used to be very popular in the UK, but are slowly disappearing from sight, due, I suspect to poor service to their customers. Nowadays I look at restaurant wine lists and there are no French wines on them at all !!
What is going on in France ?
What is going on in France ?
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Sounds like service in France is much different than the US. When my dealer has to order a part they normally have it the next day; and they give me a loaner vehicle while I wait. My car is beyond the factory warranty and I purchased a warranty from another insurance company. They pay the dealer directly when a repair is made; again, no waiting.
Last edited by xjpassion; 06-11-2010 at 03:31 AM.
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thank you all,my mistake living in such place...I do not like it.
they're good at listening there,at jag france,I do not need a therapist!
re edit my initial post ,as I hate complaining and or hurt a "small" company ,I think ,it is also hope to me,to be able to diagnose things faster or to have teh car inspect asasp after the purchase,even if the car seems in excelent shape.
they're good at listening there,at jag france,I do not need a therapist!
re edit my initial post ,as I hate complaining and or hurt a "small" company ,I think ,it is also hope to me,to be able to diagnose things faster or to have teh car inspect asasp after the purchase,even if the car seems in excelent shape.
Last edited by xjpassion; 06-11-2010 at 06:27 PM.
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There's no uniform experience when going to a Jag dealer. Tata has to work on making the customer experience uniform, pleasing, and in line with a beautiful, classy and austere product. Much of car sales gets into smoke and mirrors and providing the customer not only a car, but an experience to go along with it.
The line up speaks for itself. Now it's getting the customer to think that they'll enjoy going to the dealer, but they won't have to as the Jaguar is so well built... Well, getting the customer to believe all of this is no easy task.
The line up speaks for itself. Now it's getting the customer to think that they'll enjoy going to the dealer, but they won't have to as the Jaguar is so well built... Well, getting the customer to believe all of this is no easy task.
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Thanks Mosesbotbol.
today they finally chnaged teh rack and pinion and the "kneecap"? (i'm unsure of the spelling) geometrie was done,tires rotated.I still do not like the hadnling,it moves,as soon as there is a litle wind i feel it in the steering wheel...a triangle was a bit unscrew and the rack and pinions was a bit loose,and I drove like this maybe let say 5000 km,could this possibly affected something else...? and i do have a noisy sound at lower speed,like a rear end breaking....or tire noise,will this be a wheel bearing,I asked them well to check it out...it was rainy today,I will test it again tomorrow...teh dealership did well,and i asked for an oil change at the last minute,I can't complain...I asked to check the column middle part too...i wnader if it is not the handling issue...
today they finally chnaged teh rack and pinion and the "kneecap"? (i'm unsure of the spelling) geometrie was done,tires rotated.I still do not like the hadnling,it moves,as soon as there is a litle wind i feel it in the steering wheel...a triangle was a bit unscrew and the rack and pinions was a bit loose,and I drove like this maybe let say 5000 km,could this possibly affected something else...? and i do have a noisy sound at lower speed,like a rear end breaking....or tire noise,will this be a wheel bearing,I asked them well to check it out...it was rainy today,I will test it again tomorrow...teh dealership did well,and i asked for an oil change at the last minute,I can't complain...I asked to check the column middle part too...i wnader if it is not the handling issue...
Last edited by xjpassion; 06-15-2010 at 12:07 PM.
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Hi hlgeorge,
I have baught Pirelli for my jag since 1999,this time and due to a bad divorce in Itlay I decided to try blackcircle in uk and buy the dunlop sport max.
when they set up the tires,it was not well done,one had a bump,they had to re- installed it,so tomorrow ,I will have the other 3 check,today I rotate them and I feel a move in the steeering wheel again.
I know Pirello p zero are noisy at the end...these ar the dunlop sport max i had dunlop sport1 before and they were less noisy.
It may be a wheel bearing,or the tire,I am unsure.I did not know jag was taking care of the oil change too during the guarantee ,and it is appreciable,so I paid nothing today,I think it was about 3400 euros easily for all.
from what I could tested,I think the pirelli are more linear.
re the handling if it is not teh tires,I am sure it is teh articulate part in the middle of the steering column that is weak now,if there is a linear defect on the road,it should not shake like it does now.I will check teh tires locally this afternoon and call the dealership tomorrow if it is not resolved,that sounds fair.
we re balnaced all 4 tires,10-15 gr dif. anyway.
re the sounds I experience,from the wheel bearing? will it be possible that one is noisy,(left front suspected) but if I try to push the wheel with my feet it is tied and it is not loose but only noisy? It is noisy when I release the accelerator,it is noisy but not regular.I hear it more at lower speed and when slowing down.
I have baught Pirelli for my jag since 1999,this time and due to a bad divorce in Itlay I decided to try blackcircle in uk and buy the dunlop sport max.
when they set up the tires,it was not well done,one had a bump,they had to re- installed it,so tomorrow ,I will have the other 3 check,today I rotate them and I feel a move in the steeering wheel again.
I know Pirello p zero are noisy at the end...these ar the dunlop sport max i had dunlop sport1 before and they were less noisy.
It may be a wheel bearing,or the tire,I am unsure.I did not know jag was taking care of the oil change too during the guarantee ,and it is appreciable,so I paid nothing today,I think it was about 3400 euros easily for all.
from what I could tested,I think the pirelli are more linear.
re the handling if it is not teh tires,I am sure it is teh articulate part in the middle of the steering column that is weak now,if there is a linear defect on the road,it should not shake like it does now.I will check teh tires locally this afternoon and call the dealership tomorrow if it is not resolved,that sounds fair.
we re balnaced all 4 tires,10-15 gr dif. anyway.
re the sounds I experience,from the wheel bearing? will it be possible that one is noisy,(left front suspected) but if I try to push the wheel with my feet it is tied and it is not loose but only noisy? It is noisy when I release the accelerator,it is noisy but not regular.I hear it more at lower speed and when slowing down.
Last edited by xjpassion; 06-16-2010 at 11:07 AM.
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Front wheel bearing will make noise when you slightly turn left or right, like changing lanes. You will hear it in one direction and not the other, unless both are bad, but the sound would change. A noise that you hear when letting off the acclerator can be the pinion bearing in the rearend. Rear wheel bearings from my experience are constant and usually increase with speed.
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Front wheel bearing will make noise when you slightly turn left or right, like changing lanes. You will hear it in one direction and not the other, unless both are bad, but the sound would change. A noise that you hear when letting off the acclerator can be the pinion bearing in the rearend. Rear wheel bearings from my experience are constant and usually increase with speed.
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It seems like the car will not handle well the 20 inches,or the Arden geometrie numbers did not fit? during windy condition,the car was deported on the side.
Now i put back the 18'' wheel and i will have new pirelli 7000 on the 29th and a "cardan" replaced and all should be fine.
the car finally drives well,it was a long road to achieve it.And no more car movments on the freeway and still nice smooth ride.
I fell holding the 20'' with my shoulders and i fell too many times any bumps.
Now i put back the 18'' wheel and i will have new pirelli 7000 on the 29th and a "cardan" replaced and all should be fine.
the car finally drives well,it was a long road to achieve it.And no more car movments on the freeway and still nice smooth ride.
I fell holding the 20'' with my shoulders and i fell too many times any bumps.
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they put the new tires pirelli 18'' ,and changed the cardan joint this morning,there was a light wind and I could not really drive it well.
the dealership try it and and it was not drivable in high position ,with the arden kit off.and on,lowered it is hard to control.I spent 1400 euros on new tires.
I am at spending 4500 euros on a dec 2007 xj (25 000 miles) to try to get a good handling.,without sucess.and jag france changed the rack and pinion and more..
I called jag france and they will call me back next week.
the dealership try it and and it was not drivable in high position ,with the arden kit off.and on,lowered it is hard to control.I spent 1400 euros on new tires.
I am at spending 4500 euros on a dec 2007 xj (25 000 miles) to try to get a good handling.,without sucess.and jag france changed the rack and pinion and more..
I called jag france and they will call me back next week.
Last edited by xjpassion; 07-05-2010 at 12:24 PM.
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