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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 12:40 PM
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Hi All! I have a 2004 XJR that leaks oil, at least when it is not running. The undertray is removed and I find oil has dripped under the car by the front side of the engine. I've looked underneath and can't find the source of the leak. I just changed the oil and filter (Mann) and underfilled by about a quart to see if that would cure the leak but it did not. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the leak?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 01:08 PM
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Thoroughly clean the area and recheck for leaks.

Most common leaks are from the VVT seals and cam cover gaskets.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 03:26 PM
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Thoroughly clean the area and recheck for leaks.

Most common leaks are from the VVT seals and cam cover gaskets.
Thanks. Did that and not seeing any notable leaks.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcelsiorZ
Hi All! I have a 2004 XJR that leaks oil, at least when it is not running. The undertray is removed and I find oil has dripped under the car by the front side of the engine. I've looked underneath and can't find the source of the leak. I just changed the oil and filter (Mann) and underfilled by about a quart to see if that would cure the leak but it did not. Any suggestions as to what could be causing the leak?
I have the same issue. Thought it was the lower oil pan, changed gasket - no change. It's either...

The o rings where the oil cooler/oil filter assembly attaches to the block (engine has to be lifted in order to swap) or more likely the lower part of the timing cover, which is a royal PITA to tackle, so I live with it and check the oil level regularly.

A plus, it keeps the metal chasis coated with oil so no rust...
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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Clean the area with any brake cleaner.
Then spray it with a deodorant that leaves a powder residue.
Any oil, or coolant leaking, will now leave a visible trail.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by abonano
I have the same issue. Thought it was the lower oil pan, changed gasket - no change. It's either...

The o rings where the oil cooler/oil filter assembly attaches to the block (engine has to be lifted in order to swap) or more likely the lower part of the timing cover, which is a royal PITA to tackle, so I live with it and check the oil level regularly.

A plus, it keeps the metal chasis coated with oil so no rust...
I was thinking it was the oil filter housing. Are you sure engine has to be lifted to replace the double o-ring seal?
I doubt it is the pan but i have purchased a new seal just in case.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wingrider
Clean the area with any brake cleaner.
Then spray it with a deodorant that leaves a powder residue.
Any oil, or coolant leaking, will now leave a visible trail.
Does the deodorant's particular fragrance make a difference? Should I use a lady's spray
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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Rexonaaaaaaa
are you sure the old oilfitergasket came of when you changed the filter . Just asking happened to me once
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:18 PM
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Most likely the oil filter adapter double o ring. Hard to diagnose, just change it and while your there also change the oil pan gasket as it is really easy. the adapter o ring is also easy and no the engine does not have to be raised. the lower fastener will hit the core support but just leave it in and remove with adapter.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:24 PM
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As for brand of deodorant, never use the stuff myself, irritates my skin.
Seems any i ever used, left a powder residue.
So use any kind that leaves a powder residue.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcelsiorZ
I was thinking it was the oil filter housing. Are you sure engine has to be lifted to replace the double o-ring seal?
I doubt it is the pan but i have purchased a new seal just in case.
Yes, there are 3 bolts - the bottom one will not clear the radiator frame. (I tried)
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrific
Most likely the oil filter adapter double o ring. Hard to diagnose, just change it and while your there also change the oil pan gasket as it is really easy. the adapter o ring is also easy and no the engine does not have to be raised. the lower fastener will hit the core support but just leave it in and remove with adapter.
Aha, I didn't think of that. I'm swapping mine next oil change. Thanks for sharing this...
 
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Petz
Rexonaaaaaaa
are you sure the old oilfitergasket came of when you changed the filter . Just asking happened to me once
Yes, I always check the gasket and it was on the filter I removed.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by abonano
The o rings where the oil cooler/oil filter assembly attaches to the block (engine has to be lifted in order to swap) or more likely the lower part of the timing cover, which is a royal PITA to tackle, so I live with it and check the oil level regularly. A plus, it keeps the metal chasis coated with oil so no rust...
Abonano, you mention lifting the engine whereas the Workshop Manual states engine mount removal (that really would be a PITA)!
In your experience, is simply undoing the lower engine mount nut and jacking the engine up by its sump (on a good load-spreading lump of timber) sufficient for removing the Oil Filter Housing to replace the o rings, please?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Well, oddly enough, after taking off the oil pan and bending and flexing it back and forth the old seal without actually removing it from the pan, the leak seems to have been resolved. I'll see today if there is oil on the floor of the garage. If not, then it seems the pan seal was the culprit! Good time to order a new one so that if/when it starts leaking again I'll just pop the new seal in. I will update in a day or two to see if this is the resolution. Amazing because it was leaking really badly when parked.....and I see the oil pan is very shallow, so that seal is literally holding the oil back and I suspect when the car is not running much more of the oil/ and thus pressure to escape, is resting in the pan.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 08:57 AM
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I seem to have the same problem on my 06 STR. And as someone else said, on mine at least, both the oil pan gas and the oil filter housing double o-ring seem to be leaking

so I’ll be changing both after replacing the ac compressor. A royal pita
 
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