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Originally Posted by Rossignol View Post
I have the same vehicle, 2004 XJ8 VDP w/ nav and the cd changer in the trunk..... i would love to know if you ended up with a working Bluetooth system that allows the use of the steering wheel controls and factory speakers with the latest iPhones
Mine is 2005 X350 3.0 V6. I installed the iSIMPLE ISFM2351 TRANZIT BLU HF a year ago. It works very well with my iPhone 6SE and original in-car entertainment equipment including steering wheel controls.
 
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I have a 2007 XJ Super V8 and the factory bluetooth connects instantly to my iphone 6plus. You can pair the phone (only 1 phone at a time but you can replace any phone with another any time). You can also download your phone book from your smartphone into your car's phone directory. Let me know if you need help on how to do these 2 things.


I have a2007 XJ diesel and an iPhone 7..... My phone connects the same as yours and I have uploaded my contacts list but the issue I have is the microphone does not seem to work properly when the phone is connected..... the phone mute's the radio as normal and you can here the other person but they cannot hear you - the microphone in the car is fine as it works faultlessly with the other voice commands.
I have disconnected it a few times and started again and it does occasionally work but not often!!


Any thoughts would be appreciated!!
 
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Hello I have an 08 and want to add cdc in trunk .The car has NAV already what else do I need to hook up the changer .Is the harness already for the connection ?
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Tanks to the info here and some other posts I also finally made it to have bluetooth phone capability in my car. Judging the amount of discussion about this topic going on in several sources of X350 knowledge I quickly summarize the steps I did in a way it should be easy to repeat. My car was equipped with the Motorola handset, which I found quite nostalgic, but not usable. So there was a phone module installed already, which made it easier because the wiring was there and also the microphone for hands-free talking was already installed (the one in the roof console).

First thing you will want is the newer black plastic phone module as mentioned by Acer721 in #23. Ebay is your friend for that.


Last 2 letters are the version number, AB works for me so I would assume that anything higher than AB will also work. Can't speak for AA, if that ever made the market.

Next thing you need is a bluetooth antenna, or something that can be made into one. As I wasn't sure how well the connection between the module and the phone would be with different types and makes of antennas I decided to allow a change of the antenna without full disassembly of the module. So I got a little piggytail that fits the BT antenna FAKRA socket on the module side and has an SMA connector on the other side to easily connect different types of antennas.


Then I got a simple SMA cable long enough to reach the parcel shelf which I made into the antenna.


Cut the end that doesn't pair with the piggytail and free 31mm of the cable from its shielding (31mm is the right length for a BT antenna)


Then shrink some protection over it to make it a nice antenna that will survive being pushed under the parcel shelf


Next you will need to exchange the old metal handset-phone-module against the new plastic BT module. Take out all the carpets on the left and loosen the rack.



When you pull out the rack you see the connections of the old phone module from behind. There have been reports of very short cables and warnings to be careful when pulling the rack forward. In my case there was ample cable length to just pull the whole assembly out and tip it over.


The old and new module in comparison


You will no longer need the areal antenna that connected to the old module because the mobile phone brings that from now on. What you will need instead is the BT antenna to connect the mobile phone to the module and thereby the car.
The other 2 plugs are identical for both modules.
Now the new module is substantially small than the old one and you will need an adapter plate of some sort to fit the black one into the place of the old one. I made a simple (and admittedly ugly) adapter from a wooden plate.



Then just installed the new module in the rack and connect the optical bus, the big plug (for lack of a better name) and the BT antenna that I created.

In this picture you can still see my test BT antenna, which is basically just a with an imprinted antenna. Unfortunately the antenna was too long and wouldn't fit behind the rack, so I had to use my self-built antenna from further above. Probably the connection also wouldn't have been too good with the antenna tucked away in the trunk behind the rack. Not so pretty, for simplicity and speed I just bolted the screws through the plate, but I hope I won't have to see this again (which would mean it's working)

And now the incredible, after plugging the whole thing together everything worked out of the box. The module went into discovery right away (ok, I had to turn the key first ...)

and only a few seconds later both ends of the deal showed readiness.
Car reports connection:

Phone finds the BT connection called Jaguar and can be connected with the standard passkey 1313.


I didn't even have to trigger the discovery in the car by the ##3#*# command that the official documentation mentions.
Yeah! Usually I'm scared of this electronic tinkering because these stupid computers never talk to each other the way they should. But this was one of the easier ones, no cabling, just use what's already there and making a little antenna is no big feat.

I hope this can reassure those who are not sure how to get a modern communication connection into a very early X350 (it's from June 2003, one of the first) and can help some to do the same.

Oh, although I didn't mention it, the test calls also all worked and quite contrary to other statements the voice quality by the console mic in the roof was reported to be excellent by the one on the other end.

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I have a 2003 xjr with the Motorola phone, just ordered the module off ebay and I'm going to have a go at this, Thanks for the great post
 
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Your pigtail connector is this one OK?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/SMA-male-to-...4AAOSwWWxY-SNt
Have one to sell? Sell it yourself

SMA male to Fakra D Plug - Convertor

 
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Originally Posted by paddyx350 View Post
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I have a 2003 xjr with the Motorola phone, just ordered the module off ebay and I'm going to have a go at this, Thanks for the great post
I keep my fingers crossed for your conversion and that your electronics talk to each other as simply as mine did. Keep us posted

My installation may still need a bit shifting of the antenna position, but not sure. Sometimes the phone is there directly after start even before I have the gear in D, sometimes it takes a few hundred meters of discovery.
But that may also be due to the bluetooth ELM327 dongle I always have in the OBD2 port. Possibly they are connecting in random order on start.
Fortunately, with the piggytail piece, I can change to whatever antenna I like with just a little pull on the carpet
 
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Originally Posted by paddyx350 View Post
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Your pigtail connector is this one OK?

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/SMA-male-to-...4AAOSwWWxY-SNt
Have one to sell? Sell it yourselfSMA male to Fakra D Plug - Convertor
No, that's a FAKRA plug (male), you need a socket on the piggytail (female). And it seems the coding of the pins is also not the correct one, but pics are quite small.
You can have a look at the picture in my thread in which the 2 modules are displayed from above. There you can see the location of the coding pins on the module.
The black module has a plug shape (male) so your piggytail needs a socket type connector.
The lower pin on the picture with the two modules is the lock. The two pins diagonally from top right to lower left are the pokayoke pins to only allow the right connector. With a little 3D imagination you'll find the socket that fits onto this plug spec.

On the SMA end you just have to make sure that the end of the piggytail fits to one end of the actual antenna cable. I messed that up and had to bridge a piece of copper as a soul in between the 2 female center connectors. Still works, but theory tells that signal transmission doesn't exactly get better from this.
 

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There is also a quite good thread on this already here
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...-106458/page2/
This was more or less the blueprint for my tinkering together with this thread here.
Post #72 shows the FAKRA plug of my module in detail and a list of all FAKRA codes. The one on the module should be "G" or "I". In case of my test antenna rather "I" because the socket is cream colored as in the description.
 
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Originally Posted by Aix View Post
There is also a quite good thread on this already here
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...-106458/page2/
This was more or less the blueprint for my tinkering together with this thread here.
Post #72 shows the FAKRA plug of my module in detail and a list of all FAKRA codes. The one on the module should be "G" or "I". In case of my test antenna rather "I" because the socket is cream colored as in the description.
+1 on the above. That is the thread that helped me install OEM Bluetooth.
 
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Thanks for that info
I've read through that and hope I've ordered a compatible BMW Bluetooth antenna with a 1m lead which should allow placement under the rear shelf
I'll let you know how I get on when the stuff arrives in the post.
Thanks again
 
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Ok
Received my used Bluetooth module ref 7W9310D893AB from a seller in Germany. It was out of a 2008 2.0D xtype
Also ordered and received today a BMW bluetooth antenna with a universal fakra connection
Took out the old GSM Motorola telephone module under the CD changer in the boot, plugged in the replacement unit turned on the ignition and it worked straight away!
My phone book downloaded and is available on the screen
Made a few test calls and its as clear as day
Brilliant
Cost 50 euro for the second hand bluetooth module and 13 euro for the antenna
Thanks to the previous posters for the information.
 
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Originally Posted by paddyx350 View Post
Ok
Received my used Bluetooth module ref 7W9310D893AB from a seller in Germany. It was out of a 2008 2.0D xtype
Also ordered and received today a BMW bluetooth antenna with a universal fakra connection
Took out the old GSM Motorola telephone module under the CD changer in the boot, plugged in the replacement unit turned on the ignition and it worked straight away!
My phone book downloaded and is available on the screen
Made a few test calls and its as clear as day
Brilliant
Cost 50 euro for the second hand bluetooth module and 13 euro for the antenna
Thanks to the previous posters for the information.
Congratulations! I'm glad that things for you went as smooth as they did in my car.

And interesting that you got your quite inexpensive module from Germany. When I searched for one here end of last year, everything I found was forbiddingly epensive, I found mine out of the UK for only a bit more than yours.

Where did you located the antenna and what is your connection quality between phone and car?
In mine I realize that I have sometime noise during a call and occasional interruptions, depending on where I locate the phone. But I have to admit I only stuffed the antenna into an opening at the back of the rear seat and didn't spend much time with that.
 
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Aix,
I haven't used it much but so far the connection quality is OK
Like you I just put the antenna under the carpet at the back of the boot behind the rear seat.
I thought the 1m lead on the antenna would allow me to get it a bit nearer to the front of the car.
 
 
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