What tyre to buy?
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What tyre to buy?
I'm getting new tyres for each corner and the spare of my 2004 XJ6.
I'm looking for recommendations as to what tyre to buy.
Current my tyres are Pirelli P6000 235/50-18 on 18x8.5 rims.
I like the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 but have also been looking at Falken ZIEX ZE914 EcoRun and the Michelin Primacy 3.
Any suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
I'm looking for recommendations as to what tyre to buy.
Current my tyres are Pirelli P6000 235/50-18 on 18x8.5 rims.
I like the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 but have also been looking at Falken ZIEX ZE914 EcoRun and the Michelin Primacy 3.
Any suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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In my humble opinion, for ordinary driving on ordinary roads, there is no reason to buy esoteric tires. There are any number of highly rated tires from major manufacturers. In my case, I bought a set of Hankooks, @ $150 each.
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I'm getting new tyres for each corner and the spare of my 2004 XJ6.
I'm looking for recommendations as to what tyre to buy.
Current my tyres are Pirelli P6000 235/50-18 on 18x8.5 rims.
I like the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 but have also been looking at Falken ZIEX ZE914 EcoRun and the Michelin Primacy 3.
Any suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
I'm looking for recommendations as to what tyre to buy.
Current my tyres are Pirelli P6000 235/50-18 on 18x8.5 rims.
I like the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 but have also been looking at Falken ZIEX ZE914 EcoRun and the Michelin Primacy 3.
Any suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't look at what brand the tyre is these days.
If you live in the EU (sorry yanks, this may not apply to you), each tyre must have an EU label stating the fuel efficiency rating, noise rating, and wet grip efficiency. It is rated from A to G, with A being the best.
I must say though that I only apply this to car tyres and not bike tyres.
I had to put 2 new boots on the rear of my jag, looked at the tyre site, first on the list was the Continental tyre.
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip rating = B
Noise level = 71db
COST = £150 each
Second on the list was a WENLI, made in the EU under license from China
Never heard of this tyre before. BUT..................
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip Rating = B
Noise level = 72db
COST = £52.40
So I dug around for some reviews on this tyre and it's makers.
The majority of the reviewers said that they got near enough the same mileage out of this tyre as they had on the Continentals.
One did say that they sounded that loud it was like the bearings were going to collapse any minute.
So I bought a pair. Haven't fitted them yet.
Even if I replace them after 12 months, they are still a good buy in my opinion, but I have a feeling that I won't have to.
What the tyre manufacturers don't want us all to know, is that most of the tyres are made in the same factories, under the same conditions as their own tyres are made, with the same materials.
All the factory does is change the die insert to a different name for a different customer.
Pirelli, Goodyear and Dunlop all work this way.
I used to do it when I worked in the scaffolding industry. I made the dies that were used to cast the end pieces, the brace ends, pegs, footboard hooks, etc.
We used the same dies, same materials, same standards, for different customers, (think GKN Kwikform, Youngmans, etc) and just changed the die insert to show the name of the other firms.
On one of the bike forums I'm a member of, we had a tyre importer come on and ask us about what tyres we used and why, and he near as damn it confirmed that this is the case, just kept very quiet for obvious commercial reasons.
If you live in the EU (sorry yanks, this may not apply to you), each tyre must have an EU label stating the fuel efficiency rating, noise rating, and wet grip efficiency. It is rated from A to G, with A being the best.
I must say though that I only apply this to car tyres and not bike tyres.
I had to put 2 new boots on the rear of my jag, looked at the tyre site, first on the list was the Continental tyre.
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip rating = B
Noise level = 71db
COST = £150 each
Second on the list was a WENLI, made in the EU under license from China
Never heard of this tyre before. BUT..................
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip Rating = B
Noise level = 72db
COST = £52.40
So I dug around for some reviews on this tyre and it's makers.
The majority of the reviewers said that they got near enough the same mileage out of this tyre as they had on the Continentals.
One did say that they sounded that loud it was like the bearings were going to collapse any minute.
So I bought a pair. Haven't fitted them yet.
Even if I replace them after 12 months, they are still a good buy in my opinion, but I have a feeling that I won't have to.
What the tyre manufacturers don't want us all to know, is that most of the tyres are made in the same factories, under the same conditions as their own tyres are made, with the same materials.
All the factory does is change the die insert to a different name for a different customer.
Pirelli, Goodyear and Dunlop all work this way.
I used to do it when I worked in the scaffolding industry. I made the dies that were used to cast the end pieces, the brace ends, pegs, footboard hooks, etc.
We used the same dies, same materials, same standards, for different customers, (think GKN Kwikform, Youngmans, etc) and just changed the die insert to show the name of the other firms.
On one of the bike forums I'm a member of, we had a tyre importer come on and ask us about what tyres we used and why, and he near as damn it confirmed that this is the case, just kept very quiet for obvious commercial reasons.
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I don't look at what brand the tyre is these days.
If you live in the EU (sorry yanks, this may not apply to you), each tyre must have an EU label stating the fuel efficiency rating, noise rating, and wet grip efficiency. It is rated from A to G, with A being the best.
I must say though that I only apply this to car tyres and not bike tyres.
I had to put 2 new boots on the rear of my jag, looked at the tyre site, first on the list was the Continental tyre.
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip rating = B
Noise level = 71db
COST = £150 each
Second on the list was a WENLI, made in the EU under license from China
Never heard of this tyre before. BUT..................
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip Rating = B
Noise level = 72db
COST = £52.40
So I dug around for some reviews on this tyre and it's makers.
The majority of the reviewers said that they got near enough the same mileage out of this tyre as they had on the Continentals.
One did say that they sounded that loud it was like the bearings were going to collapse any minute.
So I bought a pair. Haven't fitted them yet.
Even if I replace them after 12 months, they are still a good buy in my opinion, but I have a feeling that I won't have to.
What the tyre manufacturers don't want us all to know, is that most of the tyres are made in the same factories, under the same conditions as their own tyres are made, with the same materials.
All the factory does is change the die insert to a different name for a different customer.
Pirelli, Goodyear and Dunlop all work this way.
I used to do it when I worked in the scaffolding industry. I made the dies that were used to cast the end pieces, the brace ends, pegs, footboard hooks, etc.
We used the same dies, same materials, same standards, for different customers, (think GKN Kwikform, Youngmans, etc) and just changed the die insert to show the name of the other firms.
On one of the bike forums I'm a member of, we had a tyre importer come on and ask us about what tyres we used and why, and he near as damn it confirmed that this is the case, just kept very quiet for obvious commercial reasons.
If you live in the EU (sorry yanks, this may not apply to you), each tyre must have an EU label stating the fuel efficiency rating, noise rating, and wet grip efficiency. It is rated from A to G, with A being the best.
I must say though that I only apply this to car tyres and not bike tyres.
I had to put 2 new boots on the rear of my jag, looked at the tyre site, first on the list was the Continental tyre.
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip rating = B
Noise level = 71db
COST = £150 each
Second on the list was a WENLI, made in the EU under license from China
Never heard of this tyre before. BUT..................
Fuel rating = B
Wet Grip Rating = B
Noise level = 72db
COST = £52.40
So I dug around for some reviews on this tyre and it's makers.
The majority of the reviewers said that they got near enough the same mileage out of this tyre as they had on the Continentals.
One did say that they sounded that loud it was like the bearings were going to collapse any minute.
So I bought a pair. Haven't fitted them yet.
Even if I replace them after 12 months, they are still a good buy in my opinion, but I have a feeling that I won't have to.
What the tyre manufacturers don't want us all to know, is that most of the tyres are made in the same factories, under the same conditions as their own tyres are made, with the same materials.
All the factory does is change the die insert to a different name for a different customer.
Pirelli, Goodyear and Dunlop all work this way.
I used to do it when I worked in the scaffolding industry. I made the dies that were used to cast the end pieces, the brace ends, pegs, footboard hooks, etc.
We used the same dies, same materials, same standards, for different customers, (think GKN Kwikform, Youngmans, etc) and just changed the die insert to show the name of the other firms.
On one of the bike forums I'm a member of, we had a tyre importer come on and ask us about what tyres we used and why, and he near as damn it confirmed that this is the case, just kept very quiet for obvious commercial reasons.
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My recently purchased X350 (2006) came with a nearly new set of Hankooks. They seem fine, but not what I would choose.
Until now, I was driving a 1999 VDP (now passed on to my son) and always found that Pirelli P6000 was the best. I run the same tire (U.S. spelling) on my 1987 Series III with great success.
When I need tires for the X350, I will probably choose the Pirelli Pzero. This is what the came with the car when new and is probably the best bet. Not sure about where you are, but I can find the Pirelli Pzero for about $160 (U.S.) each.
Until now, I was driving a 1999 VDP (now passed on to my son) and always found that Pirelli P6000 was the best. I run the same tire (U.S. spelling) on my 1987 Series III with great success.
When I need tires for the X350, I will probably choose the Pirelli Pzero. This is what the came with the car when new and is probably the best bet. Not sure about where you are, but I can find the Pirelli Pzero for about $160 (U.S.) each.
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I'm not gonna go down the route of a budget tyre, I've made that mistake before with other cars.
I don't think we have the Cooper zeon RS3A here in the UK, I've not come across it?
The Hankooks look pretty good, they seem on a par with the Goodyear's I've been looking at but a smidgen cheaper.
I'll probably go with the Hankooks they seem to get a few votes and are in my price range.
I don't think we have the Cooper zeon RS3A here in the UK, I've not come across it?
The Hankooks look pretty good, they seem on a par with the Goodyear's I've been looking at but a smidgen cheaper.
I'll probably go with the Hankooks they seem to get a few votes and are in my price range.
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I had the same dilemma. Plumped for the Pirelli P Zero All season plus. Only been on six months. Quiet and good in the wet. Expensive at AU$292 but as previous posts say this is what the car came with when new (or similar) so seems as good a choice as any.
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I put Nitto Motivos on mine and I have been very happy with them.
Motivo All-Season Ultra High Performance Tire
In fact, I liked them so much, I put a set on my wife's Genesis.
Motivo All-Season Ultra High Performance Tire
In fact, I liked them so much, I put a set on my wife's Genesis.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I stumped for 5 Hankooks.
Car went in to have them fitted today.
Prior to me buying the car several months ago it had been sat for about 4 years with minimal use, roughly 1000 miles a year if that.
Anyway, long story short. The front driver side, two studs snapped when fitter was trying to get the wheel off and and the driver rear doesn't want to come off at all, nuts are separating.
What should have been a simple swap of wheels and tyres has turned into a battle to get the old wheels off.
Mind you, I'm kinda glad I didn't find this all out with a puncture on the side of the road.
I must admit knowing it had been sat for 4 years and having read about lug nut problems on the forum, I was kind of expecting something like this.
Fingers crossed rear wheel will be off and new studs fitted to front (and probably back) hub tomorrow.
Car went in to have them fitted today.
Prior to me buying the car several months ago it had been sat for about 4 years with minimal use, roughly 1000 miles a year if that.
Anyway, long story short. The front driver side, two studs snapped when fitter was trying to get the wheel off and and the driver rear doesn't want to come off at all, nuts are separating.
What should have been a simple swap of wheels and tyres has turned into a battle to get the old wheels off.
Mind you, I'm kinda glad I didn't find this all out with a puncture on the side of the road.
I must admit knowing it had been sat for 4 years and having read about lug nut problems on the forum, I was kind of expecting something like this.
Fingers crossed rear wheel will be off and new studs fitted to front (and probably back) hub tomorrow.
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I just came across this article. Makes me even happier with my decision to save a little money and buy the Nittos. Funny that the test was done on Jaguars too!
Nitto Motivo All-Season Performance Tire Review
Nitto Motivo All-Season Performance Tire Review
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I just came across this article. Makes me even happier with my decision to save a little money and buy the Nittos. Funny that the test was done on Jaguars too!
Nitto Motivo All-Season Performance Tire Review
Nitto Motivo All-Season Performance Tire Review
