hi all
I have a problem I own a 1994 xj 4.0 sport sovereign with after market wheels and spacers attached to it which in my opinion look awful so I went out and looked at some xk8 celtic alloys which a friend had, on trying one of these on the car with the spacers removed I found the nut bolts where just sticking out I couldn't get a nut to bite the thread, is there a way of making these wheels fit or do I have to try and purchase the original wheels for this car many thanks.

 

If the studs on the hubs aren't protruding sufficiently through the Celtic wheel centre to fully attach the wheelnuts then any solution is going to be a compromise. Fitting longer studs or machining the wheel centre to achieve the required clearance.

The greatest compromise with either of these is safety. I would go for sourcing original wheels.

As you are in the UK, the specialist Jaguar breakers here usually have plenty of wheels available.

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Graham

 

hi graham
thank you for your quick reply, would I have to revert back to the 16 inch alloys I don't even know what alloys this model had originally .

 

Wills
there are lots of wheel options for you.
The XJ40, X300 and X308 all have the same hubs to my knowledge. There are lots of styles of 16" wheels that were factory original. The XJR6 (X300) had 17" wheels.
the first V8 XJRs (X308) had 18" wheels - I have got some on my car - see the pic below - that style is called Asteroid, and is popular and a bit hard to get hold of.

I think Clacton is UK? - I dealt with sbwheels.co.uk and the guy is excellent to deal with - I would recommend him (Steve). Have a look at his website for some ideas.
Be a bit wary of buying off ebay etc - it might be OK in UK, but in NZ many people buy wheels off the net to find they are not quite round when they arrive..

 

The commonest fitting was Dimple. Here it is on mine:



OE options were Kiwi, Turbine, Sports-S, Diamond Turned Aero and Lattice.

Graham

 

Are you using Jaguar nuts or something else?

The Jaguar wheels use nuts with shanks. The shanked part goes *through* the wheel to engage the threads on the stud....thus the stud needn't be, and isn't, terribly long.

Some aftermarket wheels use a taper-seat style nut .....no shanks to go through the wheel....which would require longer studs.


Next thought......

Is the wheel fully seated on the hub?

Here's why I ask. I have X308/XJ8 wheels on my 1995 XJR. Perfect fit on the rear. However, they did not fit properly on the front. The front hub is different beween the two cars and the center hole of the XJ8 wheels was a bit too small. The wheels fouled the wheel bearing dust caps and the wheel would not fully seat against the hub. Obviously, then, the studs couldn't possibly protrude through the wheel far enough.

A field modification to the wheel bearig dust caps put things right.

Cheers
DD

 

hi doug

I am using new jag nuts maybe im not putting them on right or they are the wrong length I will try and see if theres anything stopping the wheels seating right I must admit I got the hump when the nuts couldn't tighten so I will have another go

 

hi graham thank you your jag is the same colour as mine those wheels look pretty good so if all else fails I will get a set of them

 

It dawned on my that you mentioned using XK8 wheels.

I'm not familiar with XK8 wheels and nuts. Perhaps the are *not* the shanked type where the shanked portion goes thru/into the wheel. Or maybe they are. I'm not sure.

Hopefully someone will come along and verify.

Cheers
DD

 

I think the later wheels (after X308) eg XK8 or saloons from 2003 on are not compatible with your car.
Phone or email Steve at sbwheels.co.uk - he will give you the right advice

 

Being a '94, is your car an XJ40? & I've never seen Celtics on an XK8... have you any pics to confirm what we're talking about?

I have X308 (XJ8) Celtics on my X300 at the mo, using the standard X300 nuts. The 16x8 dimples will be going back on as soon as they're refurbed though...

 

I appreciate this is an old post but I have exactly this problem, I have attached photos which show after fitting new wheels(you will note that there is a silver line which is where the alloy is binding on the dust cap. I am hoping someone can suggest how we carry out the "field modification" or is there a different shaped dust cap available?

 

I think Doug was being prosaic when he mentioned a field modification. I seem to recollect from somewhere that a hammer is involved....!