Check Engine Light flashing
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Check Engine Light flashing
Car started running with a slight hiccup on acceleration and occasional missing idle. Check engine light came on. Driven gently. Looked more closely this am. Disconnected neg batt cable and recon with no change. Now I get check engine light on and occasionally it flashes on and off steadily. Checked all elec connections, replaced air filter, etc... Any suggestions? thanks. It's a 97 4.0 Litre
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Its likely a bad coil or two that's intermittent with the issue. I had the EXACT same issue with my 96 VDP 4.0L.
You can get the parts from Rock Auto for 65 dollars each.
While you're under the hood replace the plugs too, a misfire would have fouled the plugs up and they're around 3$ each so it's a cheap fix
Try that out
Cheers,
Mike
You can get the parts from Rock Auto for 65 dollars each.
While you're under the hood replace the plugs too, a misfire would have fouled the plugs up and they're around 3$ each so it's a cheap fix
Try that out
Cheers,
Mike
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CEL Flashing
97 VDP. CEL flashes and remains on. Have codes p0300 and 1314. Changed o2 sensors (all),plugs, all coils, and forward cat.
New to Jaguar and this forum. Did not want to start new thread. Anyone that has suggestions on where to look next would be appreciated. Also unplugged MAF sensor and car ran the same. Car lopes at idle like i'm in a boat. Very sluggish on takeoff and then gets up and goes. At speed car will slow a bit and then take off. Without any gas pedal movement.
New to Jaguar and this forum. Did not want to start new thread. Anyone that has suggestions on where to look next would be appreciated. Also unplugged MAF sensor and car ran the same. Car lopes at idle like i'm in a boat. Very sluggish on takeoff and then gets up and goes. At speed car will slow a bit and then take off. Without any gas pedal movement.
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Codes for a 97 are on page 121 as you have a AJ16 engine
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Trai...20-%202000.pdf
The O2 sensors need a good ground to shield the sensitive return wire from external interference
There are 2 ground terminal post for these wires on the upper firewall left and right
The O2 sensor connectors can get corroded and also swapped as they will fit each other
The middle wire on the TPS will read 0.60 volts DC at idle mechanical stop
If you rotate the throttle by hand slowly you should see the voltage smoothly rise toward but not to the reference 5.0 volt DC
You should not see the voltage bip to 0
Do not adjust or replace this sensor just yet
The MAF middle wire will read 1.2 volts DC at the correct idle speed
As you run the engine you will see it rise toward but not to the reference 5.0 volts DC
If any of these 2 fail at some point of the engine range the ECU will discard the data from it and revert to a less then optimal set of data maps and then revert to normal operation if the sensors comes back in range
Check to make sure the TPS connector is locked on with the metal bar , ask me how I know
New cheap coils can add new problems in engine regulation , did you save a couple of the old ones ?
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Trai...20-%202000.pdf
The O2 sensors need a good ground to shield the sensitive return wire from external interference
There are 2 ground terminal post for these wires on the upper firewall left and right
The O2 sensor connectors can get corroded and also swapped as they will fit each other
The middle wire on the TPS will read 0.60 volts DC at idle mechanical stop
If you rotate the throttle by hand slowly you should see the voltage smoothly rise toward but not to the reference 5.0 volt DC
You should not see the voltage bip to 0
Do not adjust or replace this sensor just yet
The MAF middle wire will read 1.2 volts DC at the correct idle speed
As you run the engine you will see it rise toward but not to the reference 5.0 volts DC
If any of these 2 fail at some point of the engine range the ECU will discard the data from it and revert to a less then optimal set of data maps and then revert to normal operation if the sensors comes back in range
Check to make sure the TPS connector is locked on with the metal bar , ask me how I know
New cheap coils can add new problems in engine regulation , did you save a couple of the old ones ?
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I am attaching the DTC Summaries that gives the definitions and many possible causes of each code specifically for your model. Here's what it has to say regarding P0300 and P1314:
If you recently purchased fuel, it may be contaminated with water. That is one of the most common causes of sudden misfire onset.
Another very common cause is cracked or missing insulation on the coil wiring, especially at the rear of the cylinder head where it bends.
Note that the P1314 code (and the flashing CEL) indicates that the misfire rate is so serious that the catalytic converter may be damaged by unburned fuel, so you don't want to run the engine any more than necessary. Also note that while P0300 is a random misfire code and does not point to an individual cylinder, P1314 points to misfires in the rear three cylinders.
Are any other codes present, even ones you do not think are relevant?
Cheers,
Don
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Hey Don ! Thanks for the reply. This problem has been going on through several fuel purchases. Have not changed fuel filter yet. Per Lady P the O2 sensor connectors are in good shape as well as the wiring. No other codes besides these i have listed, and the CEL lights up quite promptly when i start the car. Checked coil wires and they are solid. Have not looked into the TPS yet. Caused myself further problems when checking MAF sensor voltage today. Saw a large lug attached to drivers side firewall. Assumed it was ground and put pos meter lead on middle wire of MAF sensor and neg lead on that lug. Large lug was not ground. Being new to Jaguar i would not have figured battery voltage tlo be attached to the firewall. I expect i likely damaged the MAF and i have ABS lights on too. Put everything down and went in the house..will continue tommorrow
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Since the coil wires are wrapped toward the rear of the cylinder head, it may not be possible to visually detect an open or shorted wire. You can do a basic test of wiring integrity by connecting your voltmeter to each coil's voltage supply wire (White/Pink) and a good ground, turn the ignition to ON but do not start the engine. There should be battery power at all the coil connectors. While watching your meter, gently flex and manipulate the harness to see if the voltage is interrupted. I say "gently" because you do not want to damage insulation that is brittle but not yet cracked.
The coils are grounded individually by the ECM, so testing the ground side wires is more complicated. But typically, if a ground wire has a problem, a supply wire will too. If you discover an interruption, unwrap the harness and repair the damaged wiring.
Cheers,
Don
The coils are grounded individually by the ECM, so testing the ground side wires is more complicated. But typically, if a ground wire has a problem, a supply wire will too. If you discover an interruption, unwrap the harness and repair the damaged wiring.
Cheers,
Don
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Is there oil in any of your spark plug wells?
Cheers,
Don
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Ya battery is a touch low but i dont expect it is effecting current issue. No oil in the well, however, the #2 plug had some oil on the threads when i just recently pulled all plugs. Cleaned the well but found no oil there. The plugs were'nt dirty but i gapped them and cleaned them anyway. Any idea what kind of resistance values i should find between the pins on the MAF sensor ? Need to carefully check this sensor after applying 14vdc directly to it by accident yesterday. May go out and have another look today. Not lazy. Its really hot out there and i struggle due to rod in rt thigh running hip to knee and 8 screws in knee, 4 bars in rt ankle with 16 screws (crawling under car is a project itself) and stage 4 cancer. So sometimes i dont get to stuff right away. Appreciate the input from yall !
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