XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

Sunroof trouble

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:53 AM
  #1  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default Sunroof trouble

I just took my car in to have the sunroof looked at and they told me the track is bent and that the whole sunroof needs to be replaced. It was only working on one side and would get Jammed kind of sideways. I figured tilt and slide mechanism but no. They said they don't make the part anymore and if they got there hands on one it would cost 1000 bucks. Are they just trying to make money off me or is there some other thing that could be causing the sunroof to do that. Other than replacing the whole thing.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:29 PM
  #2  
GatorJoe's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 390
Likes: 65
From: Florida, USA
Default

Sounds like the track may have been lacking grease. It also sounds like nothing is broke. Do you see the bent track? you might try straightening it out in place and greasing it with white lithium grease bought at most hardware stores. I'd try doing this before replacing components.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2013 | 07:57 PM
  #3  
sparkenzap's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,502
Likes: 1,068
From: atlanta ga
Default

The alloy the track is mad of won't do much "straightening" if it is bent. Thetracks go for a few hundred from junkyards, and the last new one I bought a few years ago was $250. for one side.

The x-308 track is exactly the same, so you have a wider hunting ground.

Oh, yeah. If you are not pretty good with tools and mechanisms, you should not try this one yourself.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:55 PM
  #4  
bandre2's Avatar
Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 70
Likes: 12
From: Laplace
Default

If its the tilt and slide mech they are availible on jagbits.com for around 250 for each side. I would check cable where the motor engages to verify its not broke at that point.
 
Reply
Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:03 PM
  #5  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

The motor works fine but one side doesn't drag back but the other side does so it gets twisted and stops. They said it wasn't the tilt and slide mech. But a piece did break off it kinda looks like a figure 8 with a little prong at the end. It's metal. How do I install the new tracks if I find them?
 
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:29 PM
  #6  
bandre2's Avatar
Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 70
Likes: 12
From: Laplace
Default

I say go with the price at the dealership. 1000 for a new track installed with new tilt and motor. Dealership with not Piece-Meal your sunroof.
 

Last edited by bandre2; Jan 22, 2013 at 07:32 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:03 PM
  #7  
paulZ's Avatar
Member
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 91
Likes: 7
From: Oregon City OR
Default

I saw the entire assembly on ebay awhile back for $300 I believe. It is a simple matter to change out once you have the headliner down. the "bend over and smile"
price of $1000 must include all the labor involved
 
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 03:41 AM
  #8  
GGG's Avatar
GGG
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 120,439
Likes: 17,008
From: Durham, UK
Default

As other have already said, the Sunroof is not the easiest assembly to work on. However, the '.....whole sunroof needs to be replaced' is an extreme and very expensive solution.

If the track is bent then the Sunroof is presumably jammed partially closed? If it will actually close (even with some manual assistance), this suggests the track is straight and the fault is elsewhere.

There's a lot of parts packed into a small space. The Parts Catalogue drawing makes the layout clearer:



Only working on one side could be caused by a broken / detached Drive Cable (item 7 in the drawing).

Before considering buying individual parts or an entire Sunroof, it needs to be dismantled to see exactly what is broken. Until then, it's still all guesswork.

Graham
 
Attached Thumbnails Sunroof trouble-x300-sunroof.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:04 PM
  #9  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

This is the part that broke off. And the sunroof initially broke when I tried to use the tilt feature. And a piece of metal snapped. I tried to attach a picture so maybe someone can identify it.
 
Attached Thumbnails Sunroof trouble-image.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 04:07 PM
  #10  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

This is the other side of the part
 
Attached Thumbnails Sunroof trouble-image.jpg  
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2013 | 04:46 PM
  #11  
sparkenzap's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,502
Likes: 1,068
From: atlanta ga
Default

Yep, it is broke. You need to decide which path you follow. You have received good suggestions with the basis for each one. If it were me, I would get the thing closed and remove the wire from the motor.
 
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2013 | 06:58 PM
  #12  
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,835
Likes: 2,924
From: Douglasville Ga.
Default

My thought also, Ross. I still don't understand the logic of the sun roof. Mine makes a little noise at speeds over 50 mph that I can do without.
 
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:51 PM
  #13  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

What is the name of this part? Is it repairable. I really like using the sunroof during th spring and summer.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 12:07 AM
  #14  
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,733
Likes: 2,202
From: on-the-edge
Default

That looks like the end of the tilt/slide lever. It started out about 4 inches long with a pin in the middle having a spring wrapped around it.

They are cast pot metal .. not repairable. That's why they break in the first place.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:18 AM
  #15  
GGG's Avatar
GGG
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 120,439
Likes: 17,008
From: Durham, UK
Default

Originally Posted by Boeingtravel95
This is the part that broke off. And the sunroof initially broke when I tried to use the tilt feature. And a piece of metal snapped. I tried to attach a picture so maybe someone can identify it.
That looks like a piece broken off the end of the Tilt & Slide Mechanism (item 5 - circled in red).

Sunroof trouble-x300-sunroof-2.jpg

There's one of these Tilt & Slide Mechanisms on each side. This would account for the sunroof only being powered on one side.

Graham
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 05:36 AM
  #16  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

Plums said that was the tilt and slide lever. Is that's the same as the mech?Because if so I wouldn't have to spend 900 bucks for a whole new assembly. And how would u replace it
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 08:41 AM
  #17  
Nitronick's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 59
Likes: 9
From: Edmond, OK
Default

Not trying to be insulting, but if you cannot tell that they are referring to the same part, you should leave the repairs to someone that can.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 09:12 AM
  #18  
Boeingtravel95's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 157
Likes: 8
From: New Jersey
Default

You never know with these cars. Could be 2 completely different parts. Been there done that
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 01:35 PM
  #19  
sparkenzap's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,502
Likes: 1,068
From: atlanta ga
Default

Not to be insulting, for me as well, but the point you seem to be missing is that the parts are not repairable, are not available and are difficult to make yourself. So the part names, numbers and descriptions really do not matter. You must buy the side rails as assemblies, or the entire unit from a scrap yard as an assembly.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2013 | 03:03 PM
  #20  
RJ237's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,835
Likes: 2,924
From: Douglasville Ga.
Default

sparkenzap, you have a PM
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 AM.