98 XJ8 ATF Esso and VW type: Topping up.

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Dec 7, 2009 | 10:19 PM
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I have a 98 XJ8, and I removed the radiator and lost some fluid.... Jaguar wants 60 bucks for the Esso LT 71141. The posts about this issue are vauge and I didnt really get the answer I was looking for.... Can I mix VW/Audi - G 052 162 A2 with the 71141? Are they chemically the same? Approx. how much fluid is lost when you remove the radiator? I do have the Alldata details to add fluid, and need to know if I could use the 20 dollar Audi brand instead of the 60 dollar Jaguar brand. Thanks.
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Dec 8, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Why not use Mobil 1 ATF? A lot cheaper and completely compatible.
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Dec 8, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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Mostly because my other car is an 01 audi, which I just did an engine swap on and have some audi brand trans fluid left... The mobile 1 ATF is red..... makes me nervous addin red to clear... Lookin for that direct respone of "YES" or "NO"! I'm actually doing this because i have a Trans. Failsafe display of p1722 (which could be many things) that seemed to start the first day it was below freezing... When I swapped the engine on my jag (i tend to blow engines), I removed radiator and all trans. associated lines.. never topped off the transmission... I KNOW, im an idiot! I'm gonna make a few attempts at fixin it. If I cant, sad to say, Ill strip her down and part her out (pics avail on my facebook page: facebook.com/jeiiomix )
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Dec 9, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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I don't know about Audi or VW fluid. I don't do German cars. I have the fluid for $12.95 per liter.
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Jan 25, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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I know this post is from a few months ago but I just wanna follow up. The Audi ATF (G 052 162) is the same as the Esso 71121. VW sells it for 19 bucks a litre and Jaguar for 67 bucks a litre. I emailed Mobile, and was told that Mobile 1 Synthetic is fully compatible w/ the ZF5HP24 (which is actually a german built unit, ken@britishparts.com ).
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Jan 26, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Quote: I know this post is from a few months ago but I just wanna follow up. The Audi ATF (G 052 162) is the same as the Esso 71121. VW sells it for 19 bucks a litre and Jaguar for 67 bucks a litre. I emailed Mobile, and was told that Mobile 1 Synthetic is fully compatible w/ the ZF5HP24 (which is actually a german built unit, ken@britishparts.com ).
Ok. I've still got the fluid for $12.95 a liter, but if spending 19 each makes you feel better....
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Jan 26, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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Where is the Transmission filler located? I don't see where I can check the fluid level.
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Mar 24, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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Quote: Ok. I've still got the fluid for $12.95 a liter, but if spending 19 each makes you feel better....
Ken, do you have a link to that fluid? I can't seem to find it on your website.

I came up with this: http://www.motorcarsltd.com/JLM20237.html when I went through the parts catalogue and this: http://www.motorcarsltd.com/ATF.CLEAR.html when I clicked on the nifty "We now have our own brand of synthetic ATF". What fluid should I be ordering? Thanks!

Happy motoring.
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Mar 25, 2010 | 03:05 AM
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Like I said before, Esso and Mobil are the same company. A rep at mobil told me their ATF One is fully compatible w/ the ZF 5HP24. I used it in my XJ8 w/ no issues. I checked Kens site, and the fluid he has is more than double what the Mobil cost. Don't mean to blast anyones product, but I dont see the sense.... I just checked Kens site and he has 6 listings for AFT... His Esso type fluid is 20 bucks a litre. 30 less than jaguar, same price as VW, and 13 more than Mobil One. Actually my Jag is shifting smoother and better than ever w/ the One. Just my 2 cents.
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Mar 26, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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what is consensus on changing the tranny filter and new fluid
I have a 98 VDP with 168k. I know the tranny is sealed for life. However, have other owners on this board changed the tranny filter, pan gasket and new fluid. Will doing so screw-up the tranny?

I'm thinking about doing so. Replaced the radiator last year and didn't top off the fluid. Going to top-off, but if recommend (especiall the techs on this board) to change the filter, pan gasket and fluid, I will do the whole thing.
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Mar 26, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Yes, I recommend changing the fluid and filter screen every 50K miles or so. Forget the seal for life. Treat this transmission like you would have treated it back in the day when the manufacturer specified regular fluid/filter changes.

I've done a number of 5HP24s and 6HP26s, all with Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF (I've also done a few 5HP24s with Castrol multi-vehicle import). There are several thousands of miles on these cars with no transmission issues.

On the color of fluid - US suppliers of commercially sold transmission fluid add a red dye to it so it is distinguishable from motor oil. It has no effect on the formula.
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Mar 28, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Steve, thanks. I will order the parts and fluid and change in the next week or two.
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Oct 18, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Quote: Why not use Mobil 1 ATF? A lot cheaper and completely compatible.
Hi Dan,

I just wanted to ask you what type of ATF by Mobil do you recommend? I have a 98 VDP with a rebuilt transmission (approximately 20k miles). I'm swapping the engine and will drain the tranny fluid. I checked out Mobil 's website and found 7 different types. Should I stick with the "Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF"? Thanks for your help.
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Oct 19, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Look at This Transmission Fluid Post - Here is Webpage Link
Have a look at this Transmission Fluid Thread. Here is the Webpage Link to my post here :https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...471#post241471

Also there are other posts in the thread you should view.
Hope this helps
Jim
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Oct 19, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Quote: Have a look at this Transmission Fluid Thread. Here is the Webpage Link to my post here :https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...471#post241471

Also there are other posts in the thread you should view.
Hope this helps
Jim
Thanks Jim, I'll check it out
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Oct 19, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Quote: Hi Dan,

I just wanted to ask you what type of ATF by Mobil do you recommend? I have a 98 VDP with a rebuilt transmission (approximately 20k miles). I'm swapping the engine and will drain the tranny fluid. I checked out Mobil 's website and found 7 different types. Should I stick with the "Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF"? Thanks for your help.
"Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF" is the correct type.

Dan
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Oct 20, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Hi
I agree with DanR. Our transmission was rebuilt recently and the ZF rebuilder filled it with the branded ZF fuild (it is the ESSO product in a ZF labeled bottle). I plan to change the ATF every 25m miles and use the Mobil 1 ATF.
Jim Lombardi
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Oct 20, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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Does anyone know the model number of a 1998 vanden plas transmission?
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Oct 20, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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I got confirmation from The California Transmission Company (www.thectsc.com) regarding ESSO LT 71141. This is their statement:

Hi Bill,

The LifeGuard5 is the replacement for Esso LT 71141.

Best Regards
The parts team

Definitely much cheaper equivalent.
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Oct 20, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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I also got this from Castrol North America:

Thank you for contacting Castrol North America.

The Castrol Import Multi Vehicle ATF does meet the specifications of the Esso Type LT 71141 automatic transmission fluid.

Castrol always recommends following the guidelines of the original engine manufacturer for the recommended fluid for use in your specific application. This information can be found in the vehicles owner’s manual or by contacting the manufacturer directly.

For information regarding Part #'s, please contact our Order Desk @ 1-800-227-8765

Thank you again for contacting Castrol, we value your patronage!

Castrol Consumer Relations
1-800-462-0835
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