Oh dear...

Cash for clunkers: 1998 Jaguar XJ8

What a waste of what it looked like a good working Jag.

 

Obscene !
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What a travesty! I hate whats become of our government.. Obama's spend, spend, spend, waste, waste, waste policy just annoys me beyond belief.

 

Had to turn it off.

That's Obama's fault? That's the fault of the butt nugget who traded it in. Obama approved a plan that sold an awful lot of cars for car companies that you and I are now stockholders in, and helped put some of our neighbors back to work. The only one I have a problem with is the neighbor who killed his Jag.

 

That guy got good trade-in value for his jag. $4500.

Definately a shame seeing an XJ in such pain.

 

Yeah the plan sold a lot of cars, but I have friends who own dealerships and the government hasn't paid up on most of their clunkers. They took in 117 and have been paid for 34.. Their not even sure whether they are ever going to be paid on the rest or not.

I don't even want to get started on the automotive company bailouts. I'm a big proponent of Darwin's theory of natural selection. Why dump money into failing car companies? You have to let nature take it's course. If they were meant to succeed they would do so on their own. Our country needs to focus on things we can do well and building economical and reliable cars is just on of those things.

If we had just let the companies fail their names and factories would have been purchased and restructured. Which would probably have been a lot better for us in the long run. Instead we just added a few more trillion dollars to ever expanding deficit. Giving people jobs is great, but when it's going to cost you just as much, why not just give them a check and cut out the theatrics.

 

Actually, they are allowed to part them out. The engine gets toasted, but then they have like 90 days to part them out, so I am hoping the market will see cheaper used parts because of it. I know when they opened the hood, I was thinking about how I wanted the radiator fans.

 

STR,

We'll have to agree to our rights to different views then...I believe in the argument that the unemployment of the U.S. auto industry, and of most of their suppliers and dealers, would have thrown a fragile economy into a full depression.

Of the 117 units your buddy moved, at least half were sold purely because of this program. He'll get his money for the rest of the clunkers, and he now has 117 more customers for his service and parts department to attend to. These days, that's the sort of thing that enables you to keep the lights on.

 

It appears there was little wrong with the car in the video. Did you notice how much respect the crew had for the car? It is painful to watch such a beautiful car destroyed for no reason, It would have made a good used car for someone, now will be parted out. I hope whoever traded it in enjoys the comfort, luxury and performance of the ford focus the probably bought. (they were the most popular new vehicle purchased under the program)

 

In the future there will be no classic cars because of this scheme which has been run in countries all over the world.

 

Pardon my ignorance, but how much does a 98 XJ8 worth in the USA?

EDIT: According to the "auto.consumerguide", a good 98 XJ8 worth $5,300-6,200, a resonable 98 XJ8 worth $4,600-5,300 and a shabby 98 XJ8 worth $2,200-2,500.

Assuming this was a shabby one, then yes he got a good trade-in value, but still sad to see the Jaaaaaag in such pain. Besides, whoever is the sad ******* who treated badly a car like this clearly doesn't deserve such nice car.

 

I agree with you kowalski, the thing is dealerships wouldnt offer anywhere nere $4500 USD trade-in for that vehicle. And if they do they just transfer the cost to the vehicle being purchased. US dealer's use Galves for determine trade-in worth, which bases their prices on similiar cars recently sold at dealer-only auctions.

Sure that XJ8 could have sold for $4500, but how long would it have took actually sell the vehicle.

As a sidenote, who really knows what shape the vehicle was in. It looked pretty decent, but these vehicles are very delicate (father has a 2000 VDP) and can be real stressfull to own at times.

Also the dealer appears to be a Honda dealership based on the franchise's blue and white color scheme, you can see the garage pillars are a Honda blue.

Cheers, Vic

 

stupid waste of a perfectly good car....lets create a bunch more emissions creating a 'new' car, preferably a hybrid with all those heavy metals that will end up in the environment in 10 years just so Joe ******** can 'earn' a paycheck this week, (I think he's the one with the camera).
I have a 25 year old Saab 900T...it's done 305000 miles and still does 28mpg...but hey....the Govt. wants me to throw it away by reducing the emissions tests to the ridiculous...I HATE waste like this.

 

though that will increase the value of the classics that are left...the waste of this car just sucks on every level though

 

I can't believe I watched that all the way to the end...think I'll go hug my kitty and let her know I love her.

 

This wasn't an environmental initiative, it was an economic stimulus package and it worked.

It was financially limited to a relatively small number of cars, I think the projected number was in the 250,000 range, and Jaguars of qualifying years probably made up less than 1% of that figure. Nationally.

The ones that were "clunked" were approved to be otherwise sold to salvage yards, so older Jags that were headed in that direction got there anyway, and their owners got a rebate on a new car. Big deal.

Slight increase in the availability of used Jag parts? Maybe. Effect on the value of older Jags? Negligable, and only while the program was active.

The macabre video was one of those cars that probably needed paint work, seat work, and had a trans that only went in reverse. Look around at carelm's parts pals list, and you'll find out they disassemble perfectly good cars all the time. There just will be a few less 120K+ engines around, which were worth very little anyway.

As somebody who loves Jags, I think it sucked. As somebody who knows a Ford mid-level manager that got a callback, I can breathe easier.

 

Though this is true, its sad to see so many models leave the roads. The avalibility of new cars on credit schemes is good, though I remember in 2001 I was still in High School and would regularly see Audi 90s, 80s, 100s, Quattros and Coupes, Renault 21s, 25s, 5s and 19s, Citroen BXs, AXs and 2CVs, Ford Cortina Mk3/4s, Capris and Escorts. But now its getting rare to see a Pre 51 Plate and most of the cars on the roads seem to be MPVs, 4x4s, Citroen Picassos or tiny silly Aygo type affairs.

It does however make me even more determined to not give up my XJ without a fight, and my upcoming LPG conversion will help me greatly!

 

I am so, so, very, very sorry for bumping this old thread, but your information the Jaguar was not clunkered for a Honda:

Cash for Clunkers transactions of Don Beyer Motors, Inc.

Old car:1998 Jaguar XJ8 4.0 V8 Automatic
Combined fuel economy: 18 Mpg
Odometer reading: 100,000 miles
Price: $3,500
VIN: SAJHX1240WC841622

New car:2009 Volvo S40 FWD 2.4 5 cylinder Automatic
Combined fuel economy: 23 Mpg
Odometer reading: ------ miles
Price: $30,725
VIN: YV1MS382792

Source: Cash for Clunkers transactions of Don Beyer Motors, Inc.

 

1,416 Jaguar s were destroyed
1 xk
9 xjr
96 xjs