Has anyone got one of these ?


SNG Barratt - The Ultimate Jaguar Parts Specialist


Mine will need replacing at some point and i want to go down the "stainless steel, fits and sounds right" route instead of wasting money on umpteen different types.


What other systems are there out there that people could recommend / avoid ?


Cheers in advance
Darren

 

Anyone ?

 

hi,

I installed a complete Bell Exhausts UK system in my 1965 S type, the quality is awesome, it was ordered from SNG Barrat back in 2005.

the mufflers look like polished glass! Everything was included. All pipes, mufflers, and hardware.

I did not use the "U" clamps that came with it because those "u" clamps "crimp" and distort the pipes at the point where they meet, making it impossible later to separate the parts from each other.

I wanted to be able to remove the entire system as the factory intended. Jaguar never welded any exhaust parts and they only used Band or "sleeve" clamps along with exhaust adhesive in every joined part.

you can get stainless steel Band / Sleeve clamps from racing outfits and I understand that SNG Barrat now has them too. Exhaust adhesive is available from Permatex, the original adhesive that Jaguar used is called 'Firegum' but it is not available in the USA.

below is a picture of the Bell Exhausts system I purchased from SNG Barrat for my '65 S type.

 

We now offer the stainless steel band clamp style kits to go with our exhaust systems. They fit much better & are more original in appearance.

Feel free to contact us for more details or prices..
1800 452 4787

 

in my 1984 XJ-6 I rebuilt the entire exhaust system with original British Leyland parts which I found in the USA.

I replaced the original "Y" pipe with a European-style "Y' pipe, (no catalityc), and new muflers and rear silencers that I found from a new old stock supplier.

the new "Y" pipe and the two original stainless steel "over-the-axle" pipes I sent to a company called Jet-Hot Coatings who coated them inside and out with their "Sterling" (ceramic and silver) coating. The result is a cooler exhaust system and the heat soak under the driver's floor was completely eliminated. Not cheap but worth every dollar I paid.

and I also used Band clamps and Permatex exhaust adhesive throughout. No welding anything, the entire system can be separated part by part if needed.

 

Cheers everyone, the SNG Barrett stuff with band clamps and adhesive sounds like the stuff I need then !

 

Jose: Can you tell us how you cemented/sealed the parts together, how many clamps per joint, and whether, beyond the special coating, you prepped that old BL exhaust stuff in some additional way?

Anything to be especially aware of?

I'm looking to improve my own system and would love some tips.

Thanks a lot.

 

hi Series1fan:

there's nothing to it, I did it myself laying under the car which I raised and then placed concrete blocks and safety jacks under each tire and suspension.

cementing the parts: you wet the sections of pipes or pipe-muffler to be joined, apply the cement to the part of the pipe that goes inside the prior pipe, with your fingers as if it was toothpaste, then bring both parts together and clamp them, snug them temporarily with 1 band / sleeve clamp. and you keep going from the front to the back. One clamp is sufficient for each joint.

in the XJ-6 I used a wider band clamp supplied to me by the vendor who sold me the new o.e.m. mufflers and silencers. Supposedly they are Rolls Royce band clamps, very hefty. I did not use aftermarket parts, I wanted a new original exhaust system.

I used a small paintbrush and water to get the parts wet. The Permatex Exhaust adhesive is simple to use and somewhat "forgiving", but it will become dry when the water dries, so you need to move as fast as possible, "leveling" all the parts so they are exactly level before tightening. I used a small level, the kind that has a magnet.

NOTE: you also need to replace the front "Y" Pipe to Down Pipe "donut" seal(s). Depends if you have also removed the Down Pipe that connects to the Manifolds, in which case you will need two new "donut" seals also. I don't think the Series 1 has a catalytic Down Pipe does it? If you have a two-to-one Down pipe that connects to the two Manifolds and then to the "Y" pipe, you should consider having it coated too.

in advance of the job, I removed all exhaust parts, whatever it took, I just had to cut a few joints with a saw-saw because someone had used two of those Midas "U" clamps at the mufflers. I also replaced all bolts/washers/nuts with stainless steel ones from a local Bolt & Screw supplier. Also removed, inspected, cleaned, and painted all the Hangers and Rubbers, fortunately those were still good.

there is also a special sideways-clamp bolted to the Transmission and to the "Y" pipe which I also removed and restored using the illustration from the Service Manual. It prevents sideways movement of the exhaust system when everything is tightened.

I did not prep the system any other way, Jet-Hot Coatings will blast the parts clean, then they are coated inside and out. As long as your old pipes are not rusted-through, Jet-Hot can reuse them. What I got back were pipes with a finish that looks like nickel, they call it "Sterling", but you can get other colors like black or even red.

what the Jet-Hot Coating does, is to improve the flow of exhaust gases out, and it also lowers the temperature of the exhaust system parts. At first I thought it was all sales pitch-hogwash, but it actually eliminated all the hot spots under my car.

I hope this answers your questions. The only picture I took is below, you can see the front "Y"-pipe-to-catalytic-connection, the transmission-to-"Y"-pipe clamp, and the two new mufflers in the distance.

 

Jose: Wow, thank you. Very thorough!

You are right: no catalytic down pipe.

I feel emboldened from reading this and looking forward to improving my system.

Looked up the coating company and it looks like beautiful stuff they do.

Thank you so much for all the detail!

Graham

 

Graham. you welcome !

my next project is to send the two iron manifolds to Jet-Hot. Should have done it back then but....