Hi folks.

Just wanting to see if someone can identify or point me in the direction that might help out.

I've got a Front Suspension Assembly from (what I was told was) a 84-86 Jaguar. They weren't sure of the model or year.
There was a glued-on tag on the front of the crossmember ....



Because the PO had already removed the front mounts (not sure of the correct nomenclature), I hope that members here will not consider this a sacrilege to adapt this assembly over to another older vehicle.

Perhaps someone would also know which engine was in this Jag by the motor mount pads; which would help in determining the p/n for the coil springs.



Thanks

gatz

 

Maaaaate.

I been looking at that photo for hours, and comparing it with my many parts drawings.

The JD bottle is empty, and this is my findings.

It is NOT a "Series" Jagaur front subframe.

It is more than likely from an XJ40, or X300, as best I can establish.

Sooooo, basically, Late 1987 to at Least 1994. It would be from a 6 cylinder car, as the V12 cars did not reappear in the XJ40 body shape until the 6ltr engine arrived in Late 1993.

More snaps from various angles will confirm my thoughts as to what it fits.

 

I think the person who sold you the subframe is correct. The steering rack shows you it is for a series 2 or 3 car or possibly XJS. If you look at the rack tower the steering hoses go straight in, a change made in 1975. That cross member with the correct motto mount brackets should bolt right in to any Series 3 XJ. If you swap the springs over you should be fine.

 

I still doubt that is a Series Jag front crossmember.

The scan of my parts book shows the 2 large forward protruding sections that the bushes # 10 fit into, and secure said crossmember to the chasssis under the radiator.I dont see those protruding sections in that snapshot.

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I found this for the XJ40 onwards series cars, and it also looks nothing much like what you got.

The Seies cars (1 2 3) had those LARGE round bushes out the front, and the XJ40 onwards had them at the rear side.

I would still like to see some snaps from various angles.

 

MY BAD.

Apologies all round. I really must drink more.

Especially to JgaXkr.

I just read the scribe between the 2 snaps, and now I understand a tad more.

It is a Series car crossmember, and as you so finely stated, "he had removed the front mounts", and so he has.

The 6 cylinder and 12 cylinder subframes were originally different part numbers, and that was way back in the Carby V12 days, but S2 onwards the actual subframe is the same part number. The difference (I learned when at Jaguar) was that the 6 cylinder had 2 mount bracket holes that took a bolt and nut, and with the V12 that hole was a threaded hole due to the bulk of the V12 preventing the nut being inaccessed.

 

I suggest checking LnrB's detailed posts on the rejuvenation of that assembly on her S2 car. Lots of excellent photo's to compare.


Carl

 

is there a direct link to that particular topic?....there's something like 20 pages of topics related to LnrB

 

BTW, the glued-on tag was on the rear of the xmbr, not the front.

Is there a way to check the s/n 220074 against any Jaguar production data?

Here are some more pix of the FE a'y.

LEFT top view




RT front view showing absence of forward chassis mount.
(Left side was done the same)



Evidently the PO also made some preliminary cuts into the sides of both UCA towers....
maybe for frame clearance; as I think he mentioned (and as I now recall) putting this into an early Ford F1 or F100.



RT top view
(tag was in the rear center of xmbr)




LEFT top/rear view




LEFT side engine mounting pad & holes



PS valve & lines




thanks for any and all help

gatz

 

Try Rolling Stock: Safety at Speed.


Just a few topics down the line from yours on the list.


Looks like the PO thought he could get manual rack and pinion steering by pinching off the lies. or merely an expedient to keep the juice in while fabbing.


My guess is LHD S3.


Carl

 

Not the PO; the lines (hoses) were already severed, and making use of what was left, I pinched them off and screwed them back in to prevent any debris from entering the PS unit.

 

Why cut off the front mount extensions ? It is these that prevent rotation of the subframe when the brakes are applied. Driving a car fitted with this subframe must have been an interesting experience. I hope the driver survived !

 

from previous post,

"Evidently the PO also made some preliminary cuts into the sides of both UCA towers....
maybe for frame clearance; as I think he mentioned (and as I now recall) putting this into an early Ford F1 or F100."

Obviously the project was never completed. Most of what I've seen when people are adapting these complete Jaguar front-end assemblies to other "older" vehicles of different makes, is that they have had those front mount extensions removed so as to fit the application.

New plates/gussets are fabricated to facilitate mounting to the vehicle's frame; sometimes soft-mounted, sometimes hard-mounted.