I was working on central locking today, and during a test, the system locked with the right front (passenger) door only latched to the first catch. It wouldn't unlock with the key, the electric system or physically pushing the lock forward. In fact the paddle refuses to move.

Next, I thought maybe if I leaned sharply onto the door (actually, bash it hard with one hip) I could close it completely (had to do that to the Sonata the other day). I succeeded in closing it a bit more but the door still refuses to open.

However, as I was in the midst of lubricating all the mechanisms anyway, the door liners are all off so I can reach all the bits. I tried pushing the rods and levers but to no avail. Boy Howdy is it jammed!

Anyone have any idea how to get the door open?
TIA
(';')

 

try this:

with someone holding the outside door handle in the open position, and someone sitting accross the front seats with their feet over the center console and towards the front passenger door, try gently kicking the rear edges of the door, something might disengage. By rear edges I mean the area where the latch and catch are located.

 

Whew:


I got myself into what I thought was a predicament a time ago. In a store's park lot.
Driver door stuck closed, of course. Key did nothing. Apparently not locked, just stuck.
I thought of Jose's idea. Get in the other side. Oh, h.... the lock has never worked on that door.


I gave the handle a good yank. Whee, it opened. Loose belt jammed in the jamb. The retractor works freely, but, recoil is non existant.


Could it be on NIX?


Carl

 

My Holden Ute (aka The Mule) got it's seat belt jammed in the Driver's Door so badly, it took three burly blokes (one inside, two out) to get it to budge!

 

That brings back a memory of being locked out! When I bought my HR the seller neglected to tell me he removed the key locks for a cleaner line when he had it painted.
Got it home and locked the doors,only to find the next morning it had no key holes...

A length of No.8 wire through a quarter window and eventually unlocking the door from the inside worked. Never locked the doors again in 7+ years. Just fitted a kill switch under the seat.(an old floor mount hi/low beam switch I had floating around)

Good luck getting it open Elinor.

 

The Mule. AKA 2005 Holden VZ Commodore 1 Tonne Crosstrac 3.6 Alloytec V6 (X6) Utility, with Crosstrac AWD system, one of only around 100 made! She's a bloody beaute ute mate!

 

USA speak for Ute's is pickups !! Many of us have that gene. Scat, that is a beauty, indeed.


My first "car", actually a 23 Ford "T" was a pickup. Not stylish, foolishly removed the bed and chucked it along with the fenders aka wings.


Much later, a succession of "pickups" aka UTE's adorned our driveways.


57 Ford short beds, three, one at a time, though.
42 Ford. Rescued from a field. Fired right up. Ran well, smoked badly, but was getting better.
55 Dodge long bed. Auto trans and neat V8.
41 Dodge. Repowered by similar 47 Plymouth engine. Ran great once started. Bad starter.
32 Ford. Very well used. later V8. Twin pipes sounded really good.
51 Ford. Great 6 cylinder. Had to part with it as we transferred.
48 Ford A bit tattered as it served as a used car lot's "push truck". Built a front yard with it. and moved us once.
85 F150 4x4. Busted it's frame!!! Too much boost on steering, big tires and odd steering box location.


I could do with another? But, that would mean parting with either the Jaguar or the Jeep. Not going to happen, I like 'em both a lot.


Elinor: Solved yet???


Carl

 

from a stuck door in California to a UTE without keyholes in Brisbane.

what's next? has the aircraft that went down near Australia been found yet?

 

Topics do seem to be wandering a bit lately.

Any luck yet Elinor???

 

Hey! I'm 1400 klms north of Brisbane!
Apologies for going OT.
& the keyhole is part of the latch, & visible if you look hard. Though there is no keyhole on the passenger door.

 

Personally I don't mind a bit of digression. Mild OT banter beats over-regulation any day, although I believe the North Korean chapter has made it illegal, along with humour

 

Thanks to all you fellas. Thread drift in a subject like this doesn't bother me in the least. That's how communities are built, doncha think? And it only takes one post to get it back on track.

But I think you have misunderstood the problem. Nothing has been stuck in the door; seat belt, rag, husband's toes etc.

The electric locking system accidentally LOCKED with the door in half latched position. Something is jammed up in the latch itself that prevents UNLOCKING.

Pushing/pulling on the door will do nothing in this case because the LATCH itself is inoperative from either inside or outside because it's LOCKED.

I've been busy with other things for the past couple days (actually, I got so frustrated I had to walk away for a while before I destroyed something) but I'll have the next couple days off for another Monsoon dump so I'll figure out exactly what the paddle shifts so the LATCH won't open.

That will take some doing because it's all hidden around corners and in the DARK; light beams don't go around corners very well.

Hopefully then I'll be able to get a tool of some sort in there and FORCE IT!

Like I always say, "If at first you don't succeed, get a longer wrench or a bigger hammer!!"
(';')

 

AHA, now I understand a bit more.

Not coz I'm slow, just a tad hot and bothered, 43c.

I remember that the S2 paddles for locking, can do wierd things when locked without the door being actually closed fully.

One of our S2 cars did that with the drivers door, and the trims etc were all intact of course.

I flicked the paddle rather angrily, whilst the daughter pushed the outside button, sort of in rhythm with me, and at some stage the planets aligned and it opened.

I checked all I could find, and found nothing, but it never happened again.

Good luck mate.

 

No, we never did find Amelia

 

& MH370 went down more towards Africa than Australia, according to best estimates. We just got stuck with the bill for the search.

 

Three points, on ands off topic:


1. Pieces of the Malaysian craft have washed up?


2. A group says that remains previously ID'd as male are really female and as such Amelia has been found. These tales come upo regularly.


3. Monsoons are exacerbating my garden work big time. Got a new axe. If and when it dries out a tad, I've some Bay rounds to split.


4. The solenoid that pushes/pulls the latch needs more voltage ? Can you reach t and apply it direct from the battery? Or from your charger on a 50 amp boost ?


Accept some risk.


Carl

 

& the prize for Most Comprehensive Reply goes to.......JagCad!
Come up here & grab your Gong Buddy!

 

By the tone of some of the earlier notes Elinor may have the oxy torch out by now. Poor Nix.

 

Don't know about the Oxy Steve, but I reckon the Largest Sledgehammer will be in her hands by now!

 

UPDATE:
Thanks, guys, for all your interest and helpful comments. They're much appreciated.

I haven't even looked at the car for a few days. Husband had surgery on his leg yesterday so that's taking up most of my time and mental energy; changing dressings and stuff.

The solenoid is in a place I can't reach with the door closed, so adding voltage to it directly will be pretty hard. I Really don't want to fry it.

A torch will be the LAST resort, because I'm sure this paint is impossible to match even though it's BLACK (there are SO many different colors of BLACK!). It's 30+ year old paint, the composition of which is no longer legal in most of what we consider the Civilized World.

Before I cut metal with fire I'll use the die grinder to extend the hole on the inside of the door, so I can just reach in and force the latch. It shouldn't compromise the structural integrity too much if I'm careful.

But before I do any of these things, I'll try Grant's trick just as soon as husband can stand long enough to fiddle with the outer button, hopefully in a couple days.
(';')