I have read the thread on S1 door seals, but I have the opposite experience from the poster's there.

Three of my doors had ripped door seals so I adopted their replacement as my next project (mostly so that I could wash the car). I ordered a full set frt/rear from CARiD and spent the requisite hours installing them. They do not seal!! I can see day light on the top of both front door frames (rear is OK). Sounds like a wind tunnel at 50mph and the wife and I just make hand signals at 70mph. I have adjusted the strikers inward as much as I can but can't close the top enough to seal well.

Here's the back story and this is where I'd like any input. CARiD shows two sets of seals, one for XJ6 Base model and one for Sovereign/VDP. The base set is noticeably thinner than the set for the up-scale cars. I, of course, ordered the base set because that's what I have. Has anyone had any experience with the plusher seals or maybe I should try another brand. The quality control on the front seals was terrible, I had to cut out and splice about 2" from one seal and the other fit fine. The old seals seemed to seal much better and much less wind noise, but they had to be replaced. After adjusting the striker plate as much as I did, I'm sure I could use a thicker seal by moving the striker back out where it was.

Thanks for any opinions.

Dave

 

Hi,
I ordered a set of the Uro VP / OE door seals from rockauto for my "Rusty cat" but have not installed them since I've been fixing up my German Sovereign instead. They list both types, the cheaper as "repo" style BAC15567 ( left ) and the more expensive as "OE" style BEC20213 ( left ). I also read about the fitment problems, but all I can say right now is that they seem to be sturdy & made well.

If you want measurements, just let me know what / where ( dm is fine too ).

Cheers,
Brian

 

Thanks Brian, those are the exact numbers CARiD has. I ordered the xxx15567 for the front, I take it that you got the xxx20213? Does it look like the VDP has fatter seals?

Thanks

Dave

 

that is strange. The door seals should be the same for all models of a given Series. Same body, only some trimming differences between models.

There was a website in the 1990's of this guy in Finland, called Fiboy, who used XJ40 door seals in his Series 1 XJ6 and his MK-1.

 

I agree with you Jose, but it seems there are two different offerings from multiple vendors based on the car model.

Dave

 

They've (manufacturer, vendor, or both) got their car models and catalog listings messed up. It might come down to Series III versus XJ40 confusion

Cheers
DD

 

Yes, but you can't tell the vendor that perhaps they don't know what they are talking about, you'll just get them to read back the sales info with no actual help. Curiously, I went to the Jag/LR parts website and they do list two different door seals. One is for an XJ6 (std) and another is tied to a "5.3" model. No other distinction and the part numbers for each offering coincides with the numbers used by the vendor(s) to identify STD vs VDP.

Anyway......I am beyond the problem now. Thank you all for your sympathy and suggestions, but I fashioned a solution for the problem. Elinor would call it a "farm fix" I believe, and I can't think of anything better to call it. I found a roll of "peel-n-stick" silicone window seal at Lowe's that fit the bill perfectly. I identified the leaky areas with a flashlight with the doors closed and applied a strip of the window seal in the body recess as a filler. Works like a champ, and because I used black it is nearly invisible unless you look for it.

Dave

 

Dang, Dave, my bad habits are catching on!!
Actually, I have done Exactly that on Nix and it works Very well as the front door seals were poorly installed before I got the car and the wind noise at road speed was Completely Intolerable.

I didn't want to suggest it though, because it IS a Farmer Fix, and some people get offended at those, especially when suggested for their beloved Classic Jaguar!

I'm glad it worked for you too!
(';')

 

Just for fun I did a little browsing in my various Jaguar parts catalogs. I can't find anything about VDPs and/or V12 cars using a different door seal; no mention of it at all.

The rear seals are BAC1558 & BAC1559 replaced by BBC1496 & BBC1497, replaced by BEC20216 & BEC20217
The front seal are BAC1556 & BAC1557 in all my paper catalogs ...while the JLR electronic version shows BEC20212 and BEC20213

Part number changes often reflect a change in design or a change in vendor/manufacturer...but I dunno if neither, either, or both occurred with the door seals

Cheers
DD

 

Doug,
Thanks for spending some time on this. Take a look at the CARiD website for their door seals. Follow the "product options" button and you'll see what I was faced with when I ordered. No matter now as I have fixed the problem to my satisfaction.
https://www.carid.com/1985-jaguar-xj...parentsubmodel[]=MODEL|XJ6

Dave

 

Exactly what I did on my XJS. Best solution by far, 12 years and holding.

 

I’ve had a similar issue with my own car, where I replaced the door and ran into some sealing problems too. It sounds like you may be dealing with seals that are too thin for your specific model. I ended up replacing my thinner seals with a thicker set from a different supplier, and it made all the difference. The new seals not only helped with the wind noise but also made the doors close more securely.

 

I’ve had a similar issue with my own car, where I replaced the door seals and ran into some sealing problems too. It sounds like you may be dealing with seals that are too thin for your specific model. I ended up replacing my thinner seals with a thicker set from a different supplier, and it made all the difference. The new seals not only helped with the wind noise but also made the doors close more securely.

When I replaced mine, I also had to make some adjustments to the door alignment—sometimes even a small tweak to the striker plate can help the seal sit just right. You might want to try experimenting with those plusher seals or another brand.

 

This may not be helpful at this point in the discussion, but I'll share anyway...
It's been a while, maybe 10 years back, I had my '86 XJ6 painted, new leather, and new door seals. I recall SNG supplied the door seals, and I had difficulty getting them to seal, but not on all the doors. I checked door fit, it was the same for all 4, then I looked at the seal cross section. Problem was that an entirely different cross section seal was used to fabricate one or two of the doors and it never had a chance of sealing. The other seals fit perfectly. I brought it to the attention of SNG with pictures of the suitable and unsuitable seals, they rummaged thru their inventory and found seals with the proper cross section to replace the incorrect ones. The problem was that their supplier had used the wrong seal material to glue into the XJ6 door configuration. The correct seal material fits the door/body gap perfectly.
Now I don't recall what the difference in seal material was, I think it may have been the placement of the bulb relative to the flange clip/edge finisher. Something like that. I may look at old emails to see if I can locate the information I sent to SNG way back when...