Hi all, any advice as to ,did all the series 3 tool kits have (Jaguar) decal on the briefcase style, or did they have ones with Daimler on, as I have bought 2 for both my Daimlers and could not find any documentation they came out with Daimler decals, I also found a longer kit with a adjustable spanner in it but the kit is too long to fit the strap fitting in my 86 V12 ,I believe some V12 had the longer type ,that kit has Jaguar pressed into the plastic case,also I notice that some kits have the decal upside down ,which way was correct?

 

yes, I have seen one with the Daimler sticker.

the longer kit is for 12 cylinder cars.

the sticker should be legible when the tool kit handle is at the top.

 

Daimler stickers which can be used in a toolkit:

DAIMLER XK Engine Cam Box stickers Classic Car restoration stickers XJ6 12 etc | eBay

 

Hi Prettydaim,

The Series Three had the same toolbox whether six or twelve cylinders

The toolkit was identical bar the badge (if fitted) for Jaguar and Daimler

It was standard issue in many markets including Australia, but was a Dealer option in the USA.

I have two kits, both belonging to Jaguars but neither have Jaguar badges, only the blank recess where the badge can be fitted.

I also have a longer, narrower toolkit with Jaguar embossed on the top which belongs to the later XJ40

I wonder if this is the other one you are referring to?

Cheers,

Nigel

 

Thanks Nigel , Yes thats the larger one I recently purchased that did not fit my V12, are they the same Daimler decals as on the cam covers as they look the same as I just bought 2 to put on the tool kits to replace the Jaguar decal Cheers J.

 

Hi Prettydaim,

Yes the decals are the same part number for cam covers and toolboxes

Daimler C35733

Jaguar C35732

Cheers,

Nigel

 

the car in the photo is a VDP but the VDP badge was stolen before I bought the car from deceased estate the son said he did not remember which side it came off the boot lid ,She has Daimler on the passenger side and double six on the Drivers side,she has all the VDP requirements and R in the VIN plus the forum after seeing interior photos concluded she is a VDP,he polished the mark out of where it sat.

 

Hi Prettydaim,

Jaguar / Daimler badge goes on near (left) side

Model - Xj6, Sovereign, Vanden Plas goes on off (right) side

Cheers,

Nigel

 

Thanks Nigel , She has double Six badge on the right hand (off side) do I place the VDP under it ,and the badge I purchased is the oblong one with vanden plas as shown in a printed form, in silver with black letters nos from UK off ebay supposed to be the one for her is that right.? do you know if the rubber plenum chamber drain tubes with the duck bill tip are available and if so where ,Cheers John.

 

Hi John,

Oblong badges are for the late 'unleaded' cars. Pretty much 86 build on.

If your fuel filler caps are the raised type, then oblong for you.

You either had Double Six or Vanden Plas badges, not both.

Depended on the market with Jag / Daim - Double Six / Vanden plas, but Double Six was only used on Daimler

Oblong Vanden Plas badging would be for XJ40 I believe.

Also, I have found out that the last of the V12 Series Threes' into USA had the narrow long XJ40 toolkit, so Jose wasn't totally wrong. (Apologies to Jose)

Cheers,

Nigel

 

Thanks again Nigel, she does have the raised fuel caps and is may 1986 build,so as you say oblong badge is ok ,but now I am unsure about putting the VDP badge on because of the double six badge,if they came out with the V12 engine and were VDP did they have any badge showing it was V12, powered or just Daimler and Vanden Plas, my 81 V12 sovereign has Daimler (off side) and Sovereign with a V12 badge below the sovereign on the near side,what are your thoughts on the rubber drains I mentioned, ps its great to get this knowledge Nigel Much Obliged J.

 

dont know if this is relevant but my 86 xj6 has a rectangle jaguar badge on the left and a rectangle soverign badge on the right, nothing noting whether the car is 6 or 12

 

Hi John,

Sorry for delay, had afternoon commitments.

Double Six obviously indicates twelve cylinders, so no V12 badging underneath.

I can't find any reference to Daimler Vanden Plas badging.

It appears that Jaguar stopped using the Vanden Plas name on Daimler sometime around 83 /84 in the European market using Double Six instead, inferring that all Daimler VDPs were V12.

Vanden Plas remained for top of range Jaguars thereafter.

Which also means that unless these cars were V12, they would have 4.2 under VDP to note six cylinders.

For Hooter, with the rectangle badges, similarly, V12 under Sovereign means that. No V12 badge, no V12 engine...simple!

Jaguar does things quietly, like subtle badging.

In regards to duck bill drain

Part BD 34737

SNG Barratt or David Manners list them on their respective websites

Cheers,

Nigel

 

Mine has a V8 badge directly above the XJ^ badge ??????


Carl

 

Correction needed XJ6 !!!!




Carl

 

Nigel,
the XJ-40 was being built during some of the same years that the Series 3 XJ-6 and XJ-12 was being built, (source: Paul Skilleter - Jaguar World Magazine), and the larger 12 cylinder toolkit which started with the Series 3, was carried over to the XJ-40.

the XJ Production Chart below shows the Series 3 XJ-6 and Series 4 XJ-40 years in which both models were being produced. This may account for what some people say is a "strictly" XJ-40 toolkit, but in fact it was used in both Series cars.

 

The toolkit for Series 3 were different for the 6 and 12 cyl. cars. Main difference was the spark plug wrench and interior layout of tools. Outside they looked the same.

 

Hi All,

I've been doing some research regarding tool cases.

My main sources have been Paul Skilleter and Nigel Thorley.

There were three possible tool cases for the Series III XJ6's.

The first two had the same case with the handle.

'Early' ones up until 'around' 1985 were fitted with the plug spanner (CAC3428) and bar (C36613/2).

After this time, the plug spanner and bar were replaced with a one piece universal jointed set up, but I can't find a coherent part number for this, sorry.

At this time the hub cap remover (C26864) was also omitted from the case.

For both of these changes, the layout of the tools in the case were rearranged.

The sunroof handle (BAC2518) was apparently only ever supplied if a sunroof was fitted to the car. The spot remained empty in the case then.

The very last of the Series III V12's were fitted with XJ40 tool cases to standardise the supply of tool cases. I believe this to mean that they ran out of 'old' tool cases and didn't want to order more as the Series III production was all but finished.

There is no reference at all to specific 6 or 12 cylinder tool case differences.

I hope this clarifies and helps.

Cheers,

Nigel

 

I think I have see a long box tool kit, but it was incomplete so unable to identify the application. However I have 2 complete XJ6 kits and 1 complete XJ12 kits.The all use the same "briefcase" box (I'll attach the picture, but also depicted at the front of this thread). The difference is in the interior panel profile and a few of the tools.The XJ12 had an alternate spark plug socket for 5/8" plugs to the XJ6 tube and rod plug socket for the 11/16" plugs. I copied the RH mounting location and duplicated the bracket from pictures I found somewhere. As it happens the RH trim panel and trunk wall is already configured for the bracket installation (even on my US car): there is an anchor bracket ready for a speed nut on the side wall and there are cutouts and holes in the fiberboard panel under the carpet.: The installation is as factory as one can get without the original bits. Incidentally, I can reproduce the bracket set if there is any interest. Waterjet cut, form and paint and attach to existing holes.
I don't have both tool kits here, but I'll get pictures of the two kits to post this weekend.