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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:29 AM
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hi can anyone help with a problem i have with my xj6, it started running a little rough, now it wont run at all, it starts for a few seconds but then dies, it feels like it runs on the cold start. ive changed fuel filter all hoses in the boot , measured the fuel preasure ( which is ok ) new plugs, check the fuel relay ect
when i move the flap in the afm the pump starts and i can hear fuel running through the system.
i have sparks on all plugs.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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An easy first step.....

Is the ducting between the AFM and the throttle body secure and leak free?

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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Welcome to the forum ken1,

I've moved your question from General Tech Help to XJ6 Series I, II & III forum. This is the place to post questions about your model.

When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see. In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.

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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Hi Doug
yes ive checked it. its sitting as it should, ive take the airfilter house off.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ken1
when i move the flap in the afm the pump starts and i can hear fuel running through the system.

This is good but, still, your description of the problem sure sounds like a fuel delivery issue.

Just for the heck of it hot wire the fuel pump just to positively eliminate it. It'll only take a minute.

Remove the fuel pump relay. The socket will have one or two cavities with white/green wires. Run a jumper wire from the battery "+" post (or any constant 12v source) to both of the white/green wires. One or the other will make the pump run constantly.

Now start the engine and see if anything changes

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 03:53 AM
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hi Doug thanks.
done that, its the same, if i disconect the afm it runs on tickover but i cant gas it , it just die,s im getting fuel to the rail at 28 psi. i know i have a fault on the return valves to the tanks to, it returns the feul to the wrong tank.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 03:56 AM
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it seems to be a simular problem that docppo had last march. but he didnt post the fix lol
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...nnected-91805/
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 04:31 AM
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It's been many years since I ran Series I and Series II and Series III was one of the few models I missed owning but .....

....... does Series III have the same AED (Automatic Enrichment Device) as the earlier models? If it does, I had exactly the symptoms you describe with a Series II 4.2 which turned out to be a failed AED.

If Series III doesn't have this, just ignore me!

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ken1
it seems to be a simular problem that docppo had last march. but he didnt post the fix lol
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...nnected-91805/


This is really weird.

I'll do some mulling.

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GGG
It's been many years since I ran Series I and Series II and Series III was one of the few models I missed owning but .....

....... does Series III have the same AED (Automatic Enrichment Device) as the earlier models? If it does, I had exactly the symptoms you describe with a Series II 4.2 which turned out to be a failed AED.

If Series III doesn't have this, just ignore me!

Graham

A Ser III with the 3.4 engine, which runs on carburettors, has an AED, yes.

The 4.2 fuel injected cars have a cold start injector that sprays a extra slug of raw fuel into the inlet manifold if the engine is cold. It operates only for a few seconds and only if the starter is engaged. To prevent flooding a thermotime switch defeats the cold start injector if the starter is operated for more than a few seconds or if the engine is warm.



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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ken1
it feels like it runs on the cold start.

Unplug the cold start injector. Any change?

Do you have voltage to the 6 regular injectors? Are they ticking?

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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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it runs on tick over if i disconnect the air flow meter.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ken1
it runs on tick over if i disconnect the air flow meter.

Oh, yeah, I forgot that part.

So obviously the injectors are functioning, at least with the AFM disconnected

Still mulling

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:51 AM
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ive just striped the injects out, to discover a brown sludge clogging the fuel intake pipes of each injector, ive got a gut feeling this is the problem. When i changed the fuel filter it did,nt show any rust partickles as you normally get with a rusty fuel system, so i think its been changed before i think.well its changed now. So ive left the injectors in to get sonikly cleaned.
The car has been sat in a barn in Italy for 22 yrs, im guessing the tanks may need cleaning out properly and coating on the inside.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:02 AM
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runs like a dream. thanks for everyones advice.
time to fit a motor heater in the motor cooling system.
 
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