Does anyone know where I might get an OEM or good facsimile of the coach line (aka pinstripe) tape Jaguar used on the late 1980's XJ-S? It's the thin (1/4") tape, not the thicker (1") stripe from the '83-'84 models.

Thanks,
Rhett

 

This came up a few months ago. I was surprised when a fellow member pointed out that many of the stripes still show as being available from Jaguar.....

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However I can't remember ever seeing an XJS with 1/4" wide pinstripes, and certainly not 1" wide. I'd say the factory stripes are more like 1/8" or perhaps even a bit narrower.

Cheers
DD

 

I'm not sure if pin stripes were a factory thing. They lost their appeal many years ago in the UK.

 

They were, at least thru the early 90s. Lots of Jags rolled off the factory floor with 'em, including the XJS


Cheers
DD

 

They were from the launch of the HE. The original pre HEs did not have them. The "1 inch" version was a double thickish line. Then at about 1986 or so, it changed to a twin but much thinner line often in two colours, more lke a conventional pinstripe. This thin version remained the same though till the end, I am pretty sure.

Greg

 

Actually, funnily enough, I believe it was the other way around. Factory applied coachlines were pretty much standard on UK spec cars from the late 80's till the end of production. The first examples were twin coachlines with the bottom line thicker than the top and they were two tone as Greg points out. Later cars had a single thin stripe.

Unusually in bling oriented USA apart from 87-90 cars and 94 V12 cars, no other MY cars had factory applied coachlines according to the JCNA. Many cars of course do have coachlines but they were apparently dealer added. Looking at US and UK brochures appears to back up this claim.

This is a constant bone of contention at Concours events with many owners complaining about getting docked points for coachlines that they believed to be factory standard.

Here is the current JCNA judging guide for US cars. http://www.jcna.com/library/concours/2010/XJS76to91.pdf

And here is the authenticity deduction guide.http://www.jcna.com/library/concours...s%20Tables.pdf

 

Rhett, thanks for giving me a reason to traipse through the snow to see my baby. She's 1992 Canadian spec. [Edited to delete my opinion on originality, see next post].

This is a thin (~1/16") Amber over thicker (~3/16") Quicksilver on a Signal Red car at the point where I'm holding the rule (under 3/8 combined width). But the stripe varies in width along its length. It's pointed nicely on the front end but left open at the back.

 

just spotted this:

"Thorough research by Geoffrey Green (author of the JCNA XJS Pre-Facelift Judging Guide) of original Jaguar Parts Listings, Sales brochures and press releases, reveals the following Pin Stripe/Coach Line configurations for US delivered XJS's:

1976 - 1986 NO
1987 thru 1990 (+H&E) YES
1991 thru 1993, All NO
1994 XJS, 6 cyl. NO
1994 XJS, 12 cyl. YES (from VIN # 188105 to 194774)
1995 -1996 XJS NO (from VIN # 194775)

Note: All Jaguar factory-applied Pin Stripes were taped-on (not painted) and had individual Part Numbers according to their color and car model."

here: JCNA Forums - Jaguar Clubs of North America

 

JCNA judgeing guide is wrong and it always has been on this particular subject.

Copied from Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust...

COACH LINE TRIMNo. Part No. Description Qty. Remarks No. Part No.
Description Qtyv RemarksThe Jaguar XJS, up until the introduction
of the H.E. model at VIN 105048, was not fitted with 8A06576 COACH
LINE TRlM, wide double line, 2 “'' 5.311001 (v) 109254coach lines.
Early H.E.‘s, up to VlN 109253, had double coach lines, the lower
being significantly Oyster, rear RH, doors to 134285;widerthan the
upper. There was a choice of Mid Silver or Pale Bronze, depending
on the paint .. 3.6 to (v) 134285,colour of the car. Upon
introduction 01 the XJS 3.6, a new range of three colours
(Goldleaf,Gunmetal and Oyster) appeared in the same design of wide
double coach line; 5.8 models COACH LINE TR M _ W DE DOUBLE UNE -
REAR10lI0Wed suit with Mid Silver and Pale Bronze being deleted as
a result. 4 81103918 COACH 111111; 11111111 wide (10111116 11118 1 -
At VIN 134286 two new styles of double coach line, each consisting
of two thin lines was M111 5111181 18811111 )introduced; a fourth
colour, Dark Red, was added at the same time. The two styles of
thin double 131103919 COACH L111“; WM wide [1011111811116 1coach
line visually -_but very subtly ~ differentiated 5.3 and 3.6
modelszl on the 5.3 litre cars the Mid 8111,81, rear LH 5.31101“
1111 1115048total Width of the twrn lines was approXImateIy 7mm,
With the thicker line uppermost, whereas 13/103920 COACH L1NE
11111111 Wme 110111116 11118 1 10 1119251the 3.6 twin line was 12mm
wide in total, the thicker of the two lines being the lower. P819
Bronze rear at 111 ’During this period of production a Sportspack
option became available, one of the features of 51163921 COACH
L1NE’TR1M 1111116 (10111116 11119 1which was yet another type of
coach line colour scheme in which this time the two thin lines
P2116 Bronze rear 'LH ' mwere in contrasting colours: Flame Red
with Pewter, Flame Red with Quicksilver and Amber with 81106562
COACH L1NéTR1M wide (1011111811118 1 -Quicksilver were offered.
Ultimately commercial constraints prevailed and from VlN 144700
(3.6 1501111831 rear RH ' ’models) and 148782 (5.3 models) the
range was rationalised with the Sportspack coach lines 131106563
COACH LINE 11111111 11111116 (10111118 11116 1becoming a standard
feature across the range. All single colour coach lines were
discontinued. 601111831 rear LH ’This remained the state of play
until the facelifted XJS arrived in 1991. BAC6564 COACH 1_1NE
11111111111118 C1011111e 11116, 1 53110111 1111 109254, I I I
Gunmetal, rear RH to 134285;Finally, a note of caution about
piecemeal replacement of coach lines on your Jaguar. BAC6565 COACH
LINE 11111111111111e 110111118 11118) 1 31610111) 134285Just like
paintlinishes, coach line vinyls suffer colour distortion with age
through pigment Gunmen“ rear L11fading, oxidisation etc. Therefore
it is advisable, if possible, to replace coach lines in car BAC6566
COACH L111151R1M wide (1011111811119 1side s

Jaguar heritage trust says "up until the introduction of the H.E model..was n ot fitted....early H.E's...had double coach lines" and then list vins.

Launched in 1981, the XJS HE (for High Efficiency) literally gave the XJS a new lease on life. In addition to the improved engine, the interior was redesigned with a new veneered dash (burr elm) and simplified instrumentation. Outside, new five spoke Starfish alloy wheels, twin coachlines, revised bumpers and mirrors gave the XJS a new updated look. In addition to these changes, Jaguar's new boss committed to improving quality with a new slogan : The Legend Grows (copied from jag-lovers modle guide)

 

Sorry, I meant the total space occupied by both stripes. The family that runs my shop of choice has an '83 XJ-S and the stripes,together with the space I between, take up about 1". Mine, together, take up closer to 1/4". More or less.

 

This site shows some variances that backs up Heritage trust's description, I had a great official Jaguar placement guide I can't seem to find that told how the double HE large stripe was broken up by the wheel arches and how the facelift went direct front to back. I'll keep looking in my files.
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I'm trying to find a good photo of mine because the car is in the shop so I can't just run out and snap a photo. I'd be open to losing the stripe entirely but I'm concerned the paint underneath will be darker than the rest.

 

Can you tell us where on the JDHT site you found this info? I'd like to see it in an easier-to-read format

Thanks
DD

 

I'm trying to find it Doug, I found it easily in October when I put it on the Jag-Lover's board it was a pdf on Jaguar Heritage Trust letter head. I'll keep looking.

 

I hope this link works, if it does info's down on page 11

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

Interesting info, if a bit incomprehensible

Although reading this, it does not mention wether or not coach lines were specific to markets. The reason I say that is many of the sales brochures that you can see on Jag-Lovers clearly show and specify coach lines on UK brochures but do not on US brochures apart from the aforementioned years.

Certainly judging guides and authenticity rules can be wrong, (in fact I have proven that about chrome wheels) but in general they are well researched and documented.

It would be interesting to know for sure.

 

I could go on a whole new thread on incorrect judging/training etc. my point about the coach lines is so many say "not till 87 period" which is incorrect one of the "changes" when the H.E came out in 81 was the bold twin coach lines.

 

JT,

The JCNA rules only govern cars made for the US market. I have been looking at as many of the old brochures that I can find. They are all market specific and clearly all the UK market brochures from the early 80's show that the car came as standard with coach lines.

Here is a 1985 brochure for the UK Jag-lovers brochures - an XJ-S Brochure for 1985

However, All the US market brochures that I have found for the time period make no mention of coach lines and all the photos show cars without them whereas all the photos in the UK brochures have cars with coach lines.

Here is a North American market brochure for 1984 Jag-lovers brochures - an XJ-S Brochure for 1984

Coincidence? Perhaps, but it would explain the JCNA stance. You seem very sure, can you point me to the appropriate data please? The link you posted shows garbled data and does not mention any market specifics. We are having a judges training meeting in the New Year so it could be timely.

 

Allan, I'll keep digging in my stuff to see what I can come up with. For all I know U.S market cars didn't come with them BUT I do know British motoring is a strange lot and all manner of parts swaps fed vs non fed applications were done at times and where this all came to a head with me was two years ago at our Clubs JCNA Concours our Chief Judge announced openly and loudly at our owners meeting that "NO" XJS ever came with coachlines (I kindly showed him his own judges guide ) We invite and have all manner of cars at our Concours's from Euro spec, grey market and U.S versions, I don't subscribe to the "they didn't come with that" notion when I know Browns Lane DID in fact install them and one or two or more could have easily been ordered with them in place no matter what the market.

 

To the chagrin of our North American neighbors to the north and south


I find sales brochures fairly compelling evidence but every one ever made discloses "......we reserve the right to change specifications...." blah blah. And I've seen the same pics used in different model year brochures, etc.

What would be really great is documentation (such as model year update bulletins/advisories sent to dealers) from *Jaguar Cars USA* (or Mexico, or Canada) stating that so-and-such cars will be built with coachlines


Cheers
DD