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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 07:33 AM
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Looking at the application form for this certificate..... Anyone tell me what the body number is if it's not the chassis number..
​​​​as stated in the log book, also do I really need the gearbox no. Before I get the certificate.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 07:53 AM
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rgp,

In my experience, you don't need to provide all those numbers if you have the V5 and can verify the VIN is accurate (It's sometimes wrong on the V5).

The body no. (as distinct from the VIN, is a real pain to get to as it's on a tag riveted to the body, behind the rear bumper on the LH side (at least on facelift cars). So don't worry about it. They will still issue the certificate to you.

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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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rgp,

In my experience, you don't need to provide all those numbers if you have the V5 and can verify the VIN is accurate (It's sometimes wrong on the V5).

The body no. (as distinct from the VIN, is a real pain to get to as it's on a tag riveted to the body, behind the rear bumper on the LH side (at least on facelift cars). So don't worry about it. They will still issue the certificate to you.

Cheers

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Thanks Paul. Just what I needed to know.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2024 | 09:46 AM
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On pre facelifts the body number (a thin oblong metal tab pop rivetted on at the Pressed Steel Fisher factory) is below the rear bumper RHS. Quite often they are missing.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 08:58 AM
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If you do provide all the numbers when you apply for the certificate, and they're the right numbers per the records, Jaguar will put the numbers on the certificate.

They are unlikely to "fill in the blanks". Instead they will say something like "number not provided".

I just looked for the body number on my 87 HE. It's still there - right where Greg said it should be

HTH, Dave
 
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Old Jun 11, 2024 | 12:12 PM
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rgp,

Having had a few certificates from them over the years, my experience is that they populate everything from the build record once they verify the VIN. Therefore, you'll get the engine number, gearbox number, body number, build date, despatch dealer etc etc detailed on the certificate, irrespective of whether you provide them.

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Old Jun 12, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Cheers Paul.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 01:08 PM
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I looked into getting one of these but was a bit disappointed with the lack of detail they provide - Unless you are missing the original book pack from the supplying dealer to first owner.
I was hoping for more 'factory insider' info if that makes sense
 
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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 01:54 PM
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I am interested in learning the outcome if you submit the information to the JDHT without the Engine / Transmission / Body numbers as requested. The only reason why I have procrastinated on this for my XJ6 is that locating these numbers is challenging. I finally have my engine number, need to look around under the bumper for the body number, and will have the transmission specialist locate the gearbox number for me when I have that serviced. Is it possibly that JDHT is stricter on older cars, say an E-Type or a Mark model, than something newer? I say that because an E-Type may have had significant restoration work, and the numbers might not match up to the original build sheet. I have the VIN and can easily take a photo as proof, but I don't want to submit the request only to get a certificate with little useful information essentially verifying the VIN.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 04:19 PM
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Phil,

The Heritage Certificate is a set of information that is maintained in the Build records of the car held by Jaguar. It won't matter if you don't provide the gearbox number to JDHT. The gearbox number is in the build information record, so it will still be transcribed on the Certificate.

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Old Jun 15, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Looks like the consensus is my earlier Post #5 is incorrect, and they do fill in the blanks for the certificate.

Sorry for the confusion!

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Old Jun 15, 2024 | 12:49 PM
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Thank you, Paul. Those details were holding me back from sending in my request. It would stand to reason that the factory would have maintained records for all this, and that the Trust would carry the baton for the older models pre-Tata at least.

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Phil,

The Heritage Certificate is a set of information that is maintained in the Build records of the car held by Jaguar. It won't matter if you don't provide the gearbox number to JDHT. The gearbox number is in the build information record, so it will still be transcribed on the Certificate.

Paul
 
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