XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

My first Jaguar

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-07-2012, 07:46 AM
jnsst2's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Masontown, PA
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default My first Jaguar

I have decided that I want to try a Jaguar and like the XJS series and I am in the USA.

My requirements are a convertible and 2 seater and a V12.

What would be the best XJS to buy?

Is the XJS convertible from 1994 through 1996 only available in a 2 + 2 or did they offer it as a 2 seater as well?

Would the most powerful XJS be a 1993 XJR-S?

What should one expect to pay for a low milage prisitine 1993 XJR-S?
 
  #2  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:47 AM
M90power's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 1,738
Received 69 Likes on 64 Posts
Default

the possibility of you finding an XJRS are slim, and even slimmer if you want a cabriolet. your best bet would be a 94-96 if you want power. now expect to pay about 10k for a 4 liter cabriolet. if you find a 6.0L V12 cabriolet, well, the sky is the limit.

honestly, for that kind of money, youd be way better off with an XK.
 
  #3  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:51 AM
JameyXJ6's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,054
Received 189 Likes on 160 Posts
Default

If I'm not mistaken, the 5.3 HE had more horsepower than the 6.0
 
  #4  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:53 AM
jnsst2's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Masontown, PA
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Were all the 1994 to 1996 models 4 seaters? I like the 2 seaters better myself.
 
  #5  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:56 AM
M90power's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 1,738
Received 69 Likes on 64 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JameyXJ6
If I'm not mistaken, the 5.3 HE had more horsepower than the 6.0
depends on which 6.0 you mean, but they were both more powerful than the 5.3

the 94-96 developed 333bhp.
 
  #6  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:56 AM
JameyXJ6's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,054
Received 189 Likes on 160 Posts
Default

I stand corrected (well, sit corrected at least)
I've found a couple website listings that say the 6.0 had a couple more horses that the 5.3
 
  #7  
Old 05-07-2012, 09:57 AM
Flint Ironstag's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,162
Received 413 Likes on 311 Posts
Default

I think for the North American market:

5.3 = 262HP
6.0 = 318HP

oops - beaten to it! And the above info may well be more accurate.
 
  #8  
Old 05-07-2012, 10:00 AM
M90power's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 1,738
Received 69 Likes on 64 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Flint Ironstag
I think for the North American market:

5.3 = 262HP
6.0 = 318HP

oops - beaten to it! And the above info may well be more accurate.
UK market

5.3 = 280
6.0 = 333
 
  #9  
Old 05-07-2012, 10:09 AM
jnsst2's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Masontown, PA
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

When you are quoting the North American HP for the 6.0, are you referring to the 94 to 96 6.0? What was the HP on the 1993 XJR-S 6.0? I believe it is a different 6.0 then the 94-96 6.0.

5.3 = 262HP
6.0 = 318HP
 
  #10  
Old 05-07-2012, 10:31 AM
M90power's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 1,738
Received 69 Likes on 64 Posts
Default

the XJRS was stroked out by TWR. im not sure what the horsepower was, but it had the XJS inlets and heads and such, so it probably wasnt as much as the new one.

why on earth would you want a 93 xjrs? if i was gonna go through all the trouble to locate an XJRS i would get the pre facelift body style. otherwise i would just get a 94-96 XJS that already comes with a 6.0
 
  #11  
Old 05-07-2012, 11:23 AM
jnsst2's Avatar
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Masontown, PA
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I want a 2 seater with a V12. I know in 1992 they made a 2 seater V12 with the 5.3, would this be a good car? The 1993 only came with a 6 cylinder except for the XJR-S.

Does the 94 through 96 come in 2 seater styles or do tehy all have the back seat?
 
  #12  
Old 05-07-2012, 05:38 PM
howlinowl's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 112
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

When I first started looking, saw a couple 94-96 'verts and they had back seats. Need a back seat for the young'uns, so I assumed (incorrectly) that all of them had back seats. Went and took a look at a really nice '90, V12. Had the money in my pocket. Just waiting for the owner to move a few other vehicles so I could take it out for a drive and make sure everything worked so I could take it home. Then noticed that it had no back seat!!!! Had to pass on it and cried (not really) all the way home.

So, I started to focus on just the facelift cars. All the ones I looked at before coming across my coupe (!!!) had back seats. I believe that the pre-facelift 'verts were all without back seats unless they were converted with kits and the facelift 'verts all had back seats. Not sure of the pre-facelift coupes.... didn't really consider a coupe until I found mine and it was too good a deal to pass up. At least thats what I observed during my quest.

howlinowl
 
  #13  
Old 05-07-2012, 05:48 PM
GatorJoe's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 390
Received 65 Likes on 51 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by howlinowl
When I first started looking, saw a couple 94-96 'verts and they had back seats. Need a back seat for the young'uns, so I assumed (incorrectly) that all of them had back seats. Went and took a look at a really nice '90, V12. Had the money in my pocket. Just waiting for the owner to move a few other vehicles so I could take it out for a drive and make sure everything worked so I could take it home. Then noticed that it had no back seat!!!! Had to pass on it and cried (not really) all the way home.

So, I started to focus on just the facelift cars. All the ones I looked at before coming across my coupe (!!!) had back seats. I believe that the pre-facelift 'verts were all without back seats unless they were converted with kits and the facelift 'verts all had back seats. Not sure of the pre-facelift coupes.... didn't really consider a coupe until I found mine and it was too good a deal to pass up. At least thats what I observed during my quest.

howlinowl
Pics please. I'm a sucker for a XJS coupe.
 
  #14  
Old 05-07-2012, 05:58 PM
Doug's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest USA
Posts: 24,743
Received 10,757 Likes on 7,101 Posts
Default

I don't know what the TRW 6.0s were rated at. Were those the 333hp cars?

The Jag-built 6.0s were 303 or 318hp depending on which spec sheet you believe and what body the engine was installed. There were two different intake systems as I recall, and thus the difference.

The USA 5.3 HEs were 262 hp. ROW versions went as high as 299.

Any of the 6.0s will stomp all over a USA spec 5.3

The later XJRS cars had the Zytec engine management. When parts/service/diagnosis are needed owners find out that it's a white elephant.

Cheers
DD
 
  #15  
Old 05-07-2012, 07:47 PM
Darel's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Mountaintop, PA
Posts: 345
Received 24 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

The backseat came out in a certain year, maybe '93? Not sure of the year but there's a cutoff where it wasn't offered and then it was standard.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't want the backseat, it's not like on the E-types where they lengthened the body around it or anything. They just wedged a tiny little seat back there where a worthless waste of space was. Otherwise the car's the same.

Unless you're trying to make a statement like, "I'm too cool for a backseat".
 
  #16  
Old 05-07-2012, 08:04 PM
Bill C's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Seacoast, New Hampshire
Posts: 333
Received 101 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

JNSST,

If you are seriously looking, start out by reading the "Buyers Guide" in the FAQ quick link. Also, get into as much of the "XJS Book" as you can (also in the FAQ...). Both are great resources. Late last summer/early fall I was looking at a local '86 XJS going for around $1500. I spent some time reading the Guide and Book, as well as going over the forum pages. These helped me to avoid an expensive mistake.
Take your time, look around, and don't jump at the first one you see.
I spent fall, winter, and spring combing through ebay, Craigslist and auto trader. Just last month I brought home a very nice '94 Convertible 2+2 with the 6 Liter V-12. Inside, outside and underneath were spotless. The previous owner took real good care of it, it runs cool and the ignition system got a check out every year. Yes, it did have 93k miles on it, but from what I see on these pages, that won't be a problem. And, the price was right, 7k.
Regarding an XJR-S, I only recall seeing one (Coupe) this past winter for sale out in the mid-west. If memory serves correctly, I think the "Buy it Now" price was 25k.
Good luck and enjoy the search, and while you're searching...do some reading as well.

Bill
 
  #17  
Old 05-07-2012, 08:14 PM
warrjon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 4,638
Received 2,576 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

The original XJR-s was a 5.3L TWR stroked it to 6.0L prior to the facelift, this car uses TWR crank and pistons, the facelift XJR-s used the Jaguar 6.0L with different ECU, this is the inforamtion I have gathered in my research over the past 2 years.

The I6 is the weapon of choice for the racers as it makes nearly as much HP and is lighter. A supercharger on the I6 and you would outperform a V12 in most cases.
 
  #18  
Old 05-07-2012, 10:15 PM
Flint Ironstag's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 2,162
Received 413 Likes on 311 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Doug
The USA 5.3 HEs were 262 hp. ROW versions went as high as 299.

Any of the 6.0s will stomp all over a USA spec 5.3
DD
To be fair, the 6.0s also come with a 4 speed automatic, vs the 3 speed turd the 5.3s were saddled with since their inception. As most of the 5.3s are old enough for classic status now, and exempt from emissions testing in most major markets, here's how to broaden your search:

- find one in the seating configuration you like
- gut the cats & lose a set of mufflers
- throw a 4 speed transmission in there
- ??
- profit
 
  #19  
Old 05-07-2012, 10:43 PM
M90power's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: WV
Posts: 1,738
Received 69 Likes on 64 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Flint Ironstag
- find one in the seating configuration you like
- gut the cats & lose a set of mufflers
- throw a 4 speed transmission in there
- ??
- profit

HAHA. dont forget the race buckets and cragars.
 
  #20  
Old 05-08-2012, 07:06 AM
Greg Edge's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 388
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by M90power
HAHA. dont forget the race buckets and cragars.
He is buying a Jaguar not a Camaro
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JarodL
F-Type ( X152 )
63
03-07-2024 01:39 AM
paulyling
Mark V - X 420G
11
08-15-2023 09:33 PM
SD96XJ6L
XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 )
17
01-12-2022 04:30 AM
David Thompson
New Member Area - Intro a MUST
7
09-03-2015 07:48 PM
bkeats
E type ( XK-E )
0
09-02-2015 09:38 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: My first Jaguar



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:43 PM.