XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

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Old 01-29-2019, 08:06 AM
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I am with Ronbros on this one. providing there is some negative camber on the rear wheels, and that the ride height is correct, I believe the XJS handles and corners better with no rear ARB.
 
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ronbros
my XJS had the ARB , fitted 1978 V12, but talking with some local guys who raced the early XJS said to take it off,it will handle better!
so i been runnin round that way for 26yrs! i never drove the car when it was fitted , so i donno!
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I've heard this before, I spoke to one racer name Charles... he disconnected the bar at a Lime Rock track day and on the next lap out picked up a second or two. Hard to tell if that was driver variation or if it helped. Who knows? Lime rock is one of those tracks you slide around and the fastest laps can sometimes be slippy and sloppy. Every track is different.

The XJS understeers, Having the rear end flop over can help the car rotate in experience hands. On the street, under-steer is generally considered safer.

The better setup is to keep or install the somewhat thin stock rear bar and upgrade to a stiffer 1 inch front bar. This will make the back end soft relative to the front and offer up a more controlled rotation effect. I have driven a friends 1990 XJS with this setup and it's a great drive. He managed a 1:16 on a Limerock track day which is a good time for a novice in any car. The brakes over heated after 2 laps and Limerock isn't even a brake intensive track.

The Aston DB7 GT had a slightly larger rear sway bar and 1 inch front. That's the setup I use and the DB7 GT put down a good time for GT car at the Nurburgring Nordschleife. About 8 min. That's Amazing becasue that time was in line with other high end GT offerings of the day from Porsche and Ferrari. Many people dont know the DB7 was based on the XJS but the Front suspension geometry is more inline with the XK8 than a XJS.
 

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Old 01-29-2019, 05:23 PM
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i did install a 1" front bar ,when i took the rear off, way back 1994!!

truth is i dont drive really fast anymore , i'm turnin 85 this year, so gotta think about sellin the XJS HOT ROD!
i know ,but ever think what the hell would my wife do with it?
perish the thought!
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:16 AM
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A basic understanding of chassis balance will tell you that if you stiffen the Front roll stiffness, you will tend towards understeer, while increasing the rear roll stiffness will tend towards oversteer.

Most aftermarket upgrades increase front and rear roll stiffness, but alter the front rear balance by shifting a little more to the rear.

The ability to adjust the front/rear roll stiffness balance, either by adjustable roll/sway bars or by replacing one or both of the bars, allows you to adjust how the car feels to the driver. Some drivers prefer a slightly ‘loose’ (oversteer) car, while others prefer a little understeer.
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 10:38 AM
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my understanding about the XJS , with a stiff rear bar, is breakaway happens suddenly , and collecting it up is difficult!

altho who drives like that anyway?
 
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Old 02-07-2019, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ronbros
my understanding about the XJS , with a stiff rear bar, is breakaway happens suddenly , and collecting it up is difficult!

altho who drives like that anyway?

'Tis true.

On my XJS I had the 1" front bar and experimented with 3 different rear bars.

Jaguar used two different sizes in the rear, 13mm and 15mm....or something like that. I found and tried both. I also tried an Addco rear bar, which is something like 19mm.

The Addco bar was too much. The car became borderline treacherous.

Both of the smaller sizes were fine; the difference between them, subjectively, was not significant.

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Old 02-08-2019, 04:32 AM
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I’ve been offered an 18mm bar for the rear of my XJ6 that can be paired with either a 24mm or 27mm front bar. I’m thinking an 18mm Rear might work best with the 27mm front?

Choices, choices!
 
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:19 PM
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My XJS has a 1" (25mm) front bar and 7/8" (22mm) rear bar and it corners very flatly. The only time I have had oversteer is applying power in the wet on a corner, never a problem in the dry. The factory bar is 16mm rear I believe, paired with 22mm front.

I think you will have trouble fitting a 27mm front bar actually, as the 25mm leaves very little wall thickness of the bushing that goes into the brackets. I'm not sure you could fit bushing and a 27mm bar into the factory brackets.
 
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