Threaded Hole on Top of Vee
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Threaded Hole on Top of Vee
Now that my spark plug wires have been replaced with new Denso ones, their neater routing has shown that there's a mysterious hole on top of the engine, in the vee. It appears to be threaded, but nothing is in there. Am I missing some vital part, or is this quite normal? I'm understandably concerned about things dropping down there, if they haven't already.
Here's the general location:
And here's a close-up. It's right under the cruise control linkage:
Any suggestions about what this is and whether it is a problem will be gratefully received. If it needs plugging, it shouldn't be too hard, but I don't want to block something vital either.
Here's the general location:
And here's a close-up. It's right under the cruise control linkage:
Any suggestions about what this is and whether it is a problem will be gratefully received. If it needs plugging, it shouldn't be too hard, but I don't want to block something vital either.
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Nope, lost me there.
Poke a wire down the hole, and if its a blind hole, move on, maybe something to do with Pre Marelli cars, but I cannot think of anything at the moment.
If the wire goes straight through, plan "B". I somehow doubt that coz there is NO oil spewing out of it.
I dont have a V12 here to go and look at, so someone will oblige eventually.
Poke a wire down the hole, and if its a blind hole, move on, maybe something to do with Pre Marelli cars, but I cannot think of anything at the moment.
If the wire goes straight through, plan "B". I somehow doubt that coz there is NO oil spewing out of it.
I dont have a V12 here to go and look at, so someone will oblige eventually.
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Thanks very muchly. A bit of engine design that Jaguar kept because they couldn't afford to reshape the engine block, perhaps? Could be. I'll see what poking does. I don't think it's too serious, as the car has clearly run with it open for more than 50,000 km, but without the "roof" of the cables tightly above it, it's certainly more vulnerable....
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I think I may have tracked it down. The grey ribbed thing, perhaps some sort of cooler, in between the vee on this E-Type engine might be what this hole was designed to fit.
E-Type V12
Source: Jaguar E-Type V12 Engine and Gearbox - Bridge Classic Cars
E-Type V12
Source: Jaguar E-Type V12 Engine and Gearbox - Bridge Classic Cars
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Well, they aren't though really... Sync 4 carbs properly... That is VERY fiddly. Then you want to make sure the fuel lines have the same supply, the pump(s) need to run properly.
The XJ-S has better under bonnet servicablity as the bonnet is removed a lot easier than that of the E-Type. Grill out and then 4 screws, undo the struts and out. All easily accessable and then you can work everywhere easily I do the same on my X308. Bonnet off is easier than working around it. Just lining it up is a fiddly bit...
The E V12 only looks easy to work on, as it has less electrical stuff (which improves power and economy, compare a carbed V12 to any EFI V12)
The XJ-S has better under bonnet servicablity as the bonnet is removed a lot easier than that of the E-Type. Grill out and then 4 screws, undo the struts and out. All easily accessable and then you can work everywhere easily I do the same on my X308. Bonnet off is easier than working around it. Just lining it up is a fiddly bit...
The E V12 only looks easy to work on, as it has less electrical stuff (which improves power and economy, compare a carbed V12 to any EFI V12)
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I guess the key thing here is "looks" easier....
I always imagined bonnet-off jobs were basically when you needed to do some serious, hard-core work, and didn't realise it was that (relatively) simple. That would also make the front much more accessible as well, though having a rear-hinged bonnet with the grille also rising up would have been simpler, methinks... even though I know why (or think I know why) they didn't....
I always imagined bonnet-off jobs were basically when you needed to do some serious, hard-core work, and didn't realise it was that (relatively) simple. That would also make the front much more accessible as well, though having a rear-hinged bonnet with the grille also rising up would have been simpler, methinks... even though I know why (or think I know why) they didn't....
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Some say that the appendix does indeed have a function, although we humans can manage sans it. So, not quite vestigal.
However, the bottom end of our spines, the coxyx (sp) is indeed vestigial. And, as I vaguely recall, we might even have some vestigial remains of what might have been gillls !!
My LT1 has a blind threaded hoe an the front of on head and the rear of the other. Heads on SBC's are vastly interchangable.
It drove me nuts for a bit, thinking it was access for an oil galley port.
As the one in question seems blind and not an opening to some galley, it is harmless as is. I'd be tempted to put a bolt in it, just to 'clean things up".
Carl
However, the bottom end of our spines, the coxyx (sp) is indeed vestigial. And, as I vaguely recall, we might even have some vestigial remains of what might have been gillls !!
My LT1 has a blind threaded hoe an the front of on head and the rear of the other. Heads on SBC's are vastly interchangable.
It drove me nuts for a bit, thinking it was access for an oil galley port.
As the one in question seems blind and not an opening to some galley, it is harmless as is. I'd be tempted to put a bolt in it, just to 'clean things up".
Carl
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I guess the key thing here is "looks" easier....
I always imagined bonnet-off jobs were basically when you needed to do some serious, hard-core work, and didn't realise it was that (relatively) simple. That would also make the front much more accessible as well, though having a rear-hinged bonnet with the grille also rising up would have been simpler, methinks... even though I know why (or think I know why) they didn't....
I always imagined bonnet-off jobs were basically when you needed to do some serious, hard-core work, and didn't realise it was that (relatively) simple. That would also make the front much more accessible as well, though having a rear-hinged bonnet with the grille also rising up would have been simpler, methinks... even though I know why (or think I know why) they didn't....
Ford Fiesta MK II. Bonnet opens forwards. The engine bay is accessed easily from both sides. Everything can be removed within minutes and without hurting your back.
Volvo 740/760/940/960. Bonnet opens "normally". Grill stays on the car. Okay to work on. Best thing: no bonnet removal needed to take engine and tranny out. Lift the bonnet the workshop setting (little lever on the hing and it opens to a 90° angle). Bonnet off is awkward.
Skoda Estelle. Bonnet is technically a boot lid. Opens SIDEWAYS. IF there was an engine in there, it would be rather well accessable from one side and the front, as the bonnet can also open to a 90° setting, you could technically get to the other side well as well...
I'd say the "standard" opening being hinged at the rear is easier to work on as such but the front hinged is safer and if needed, you can take it off.
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Some say that the appendix does indeed have a function, although we humans can manage sans it. So, not quite vestigal.
However, the bottom end of our spines, the coxyx (sp) is indeed vestigial. And, as I vaguely recall, we might even have some vestigial remains of what might have been gillls !!
Carl
However, the bottom end of our spines, the coxyx (sp) is indeed vestigial. And, as I vaguely recall, we might even have some vestigial remains of what might have been gillls !!
Carl
However, if you will permit me to quote Wikipedia, the appendix is still apparently considered vestigial as it no longer functions to digest anything:
A classic example at the level of gross anatomy is the human vermiform appendix — though vestigial in the sense of retaining no significant digestive function, the appendix still has immunological roles and is useful in maintaining gut flora.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress...mbryos-a-hoax/